Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Elessar [Sly] on March 19, 2012, 02:41:41 PM
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Okay so normally my first choice would be BKP's. I'm thinking about purchasing a Gibson SG Standard and I usually end up replacing stock pickups. I have been after a guitar sound like Mikko Lindstrom (He uses SD SH4's/SH5's) for his guitars (I'm assuming thats for bridges). I was wondering what Bare knuckles can pull off his kind of sound?
I already have nailbomb (bridge) and cold sweat (Neck) in my Ibanez S series and although I really like that sound I want something more like above for the SG. I need a bridge that is chuggy/ great for leads, and a neck pick up to pair it with that is tonally rich but can handle some gain.
Please help people with BKP knowledge??
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For the Sh-4, Holydiver
For the Sh-5, Coldsweat
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It's always guaranteed to start a debate whenever anyone suggests BKP "equivalents" of Duncan, DiMarzio or EMG models....
I don't know anything about Mikko Lindstrom or what he sounds like, but I will say that a Cold Sweat is much better suited to an SG than a Holydiver. I suspect the HD would sound too bassy/middy, whereas the CS is tight, clear and crunchy, no clutter in the midrange. CS neck is nice in an SG too, fat and singing.
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Interesting. What would be best to pair them with in the neck? Considering the tone I want out of the neck (mentioned in previous post).
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If you're interested in the Cold Sweats, I'd just go for the calibrated set, I think they complement each other perfectly.
The neck CS is definitely "tonally rich but can handle some gain".
But don't take my word for it, maybe someone who knows more about HIM will chime in.
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If you're interested in the Cold Sweats, I'd just go for the calibrated set, I think they complement each other perfectly.
The neck CS is definitely "tonally rich but can handle some gain".
But don't take my word for it, maybe someone who knows more about HIM will chime in.
I have a Cold sweat in the neck of my Ibanez, Although I like the sound it isn't what I am looking for this time round for the neck.
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(He uses SD SH4's/SH5's) for his guitars (I'm assuming thats for bridges).
Yes, these are designed for the bridge position. As far as I know there are no specific SH-4 and SH-5 neck models. They are usually paired with the SH-1 (the '59) or the SH-2 (the Jazz).
I was wondering what Bare knuckles can pull off his kind of sound?
I never played an SH-5, only SH-4. I am confident to say that no BKP sounds like the SH-4, and that's a good thing.
I already have nailbomb (bridge) and cold sweat (Neck) in my Ibanez S series and although I really like that sound I want something more like above for the SG. I need a bridge that is chuggy/ great for leads, and a neck pick up to pair it with that is tonally rich but can handle some gain.
For the bridge: Cold Sweat, C-Bomb or Miracle Man (all bridge models)
For the neck: I am not sure what you really want - "tonally rich but can handle some gain" can really mean anything. Do you want more output than the Cold Sweat, less output, more beef/highs/mids etc.?
Cheers Stephan
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Well I just searched Mikko Lindstrom on Youtube - I must say his tone appears rather dark to me - very typical SG tone. My idea is that the Holydiver would get you closest to that. However I am fully aware that SGs tend to be middy so the Holydiver may overaccentuate that particular frequency range.
Unfortunately in all samples I found he used the bridge pickup so I am not sure what to recommend for the neck spot. If you go Holydiver for the bridge then the complete set would be in order.
Cheers Stephan
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If you're interested in the Cold Sweats, I'd just go for the calibrated set, I think they complement each other perfectly.
The neck CS is definitely "tonally rich but can handle some gain".
But don't take my word for it, maybe someone who knows more about HIM will chime in.
I have a Cold sweat in the neck of my Ibanez, Although I like the sound it isn't what I am looking for this time round for the neck.
Fair enough, but bear in mind the pickup may sound very different in an SG than it does in the Ibanez (I'm assuming your Ibanez is an RG or something like that with a Floyd and a bolt-on maple neck)
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Nailbomb for that tone imo.
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A C-Bomb might do.
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holy diver + sg = wrong
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I would go for C-bomb Coldsweat for what your are asking honestly. My previous statement was only referring to the pickups mention; sh-4 and sh-5. That suggest was made on the basis of what was shared to me from the BK team. I don't quote those folks, because they haven't given me permission to do so. But you should do well with either the CS or NB-C.
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Cheers for the info guys. A lot of different opinions there so I'm not sure where to start. I will just have to listen to more clips. - I can't watch videos until later tonight.
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Just to let people know I play through a Laney Ironheart IRT60 212. Hope this helps.
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holy diver + sg = wrong
That's why I qualified my statement above.
I believe the Cold Sweat set would be a good choice for the SG and would provide a suitable tone for the style but it would be far brighter than Mikko's tone.
Cheers Stephan
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If it's a thick, dark tone, anyone suggested Warpig? Nothing wrong with that in an SG.
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Good and popular SG choices are
Riff Raff
Cold Sweat
Miracle Man
Warpig
I use a Black Dog for a big and warm midrange; before that I had a Miracle Man in my SG and I loved it as well.
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Warpig is too much for what I want.
For the bridge I want a crunchy old school sound for distortion/high gain and fuzz. But I also would like a modern edge to it.
For the neck humbucker would have to be a classic warm tone that could handle some gain, but doesn't comprimise on sounding percussive.
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For the bridge I want a crunchy old school sound for distortion/high gain and fuzz. But I also would like a modern edge to it.
That's the Cold Sweat bridge.
For the neck humbucker would have to be a classic warm tone that could handle some gain, but doesn't comprimise on sounding percussive.
That's either the Cold Sweat neck or the Holydiver neck, the former being the stronger of the two.
If you want a strong contrast between the bridge and neck humbuckers go for the Cold Sweat set.
If you want the pickups to show roughly equal amounts of highs, go Cold Sweat bridge/Holydiver neck.
Cheers Stephan
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Can't disagree with that. I really don't think there's a better hotter-than-vintage set for an SG than the Cold Sweats.
Still don't know if they'll give you the sound of Kimmo or Mikko or whatever his name is, but I don't think chasing a tone by using similar gear ever really works.
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Has anyone got a video/clips to what the cold seats sound link in the bridge of an SG?
I can't find anything online and in this instance the clips on the main site aren't a massive help (Although sounding awesome!)
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How does the Cold sweat compare to the WB Habaneros?
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How does the Cold sweat compare to the WB Habaneros?
I'd be surprised if anyone can answer that question!
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How does the Cold sweat compare to the WB Habaneros?
I'd be surprised if anyone can answer that question!
:lol:
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How does the Cold sweat compare to the WB Habaneros?
I'd be surprised if anyone can answer that question!
:lol:
The Habaneros are a brilliant rich clean tone (I bought the guitar by the way!). But they can't handle much gain. So it is likely that I will now replace them. The hunt is officially on!
So going with what I have said above (Bridge= can handle high gain with a classic sound with modern twist/ and crunchy with dirt! Neck = Something that isn't bland/has character and is very 'shimmery' that can also handle some high gain/works well with the bridge. Perhaps shimmery is not the word, nice clean sound with accentuated string definition.).
I am also open to coil tap as well since that is what this SG currently has this option and I am liking it!
Help please?
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Bump. Help wanted. It may be between a Nailbomb set or SH5/SH2. I'd prefer bareknuckles, but I am unsure.
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Well, I've also liked having a War Pig in my SG, so there's always that :)
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Well, I've also liked having a War Pig in my SG, so there's always that :)
I have heard the Warpigs are great in SGs', but I think that might be a bit too Brutal for what I want.
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Might go with C-bomb (bridge) and Abomb (neck). It is a shame there are no clips of what this sounds like. IF I do go with this set up perhaps I could post some vids on youtube or something.