Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Dazza1004 on April 23, 2012, 07:52:52 PM
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Seeing as there are a couple of other NAD's around here I thought I would post this, picked up a 20th Anni Shiva to go with my 20th anni XTC.
Had the Zilla super fat boy a couple of weeks and to be honest I am not missing the Diamond, no loss of thump as far as I can tell and less directional due to the open back (which is convertible should I decide I want to close it up)
Here's the amps and cabs
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/Dazza1004/Current%20Stuff/SAM_0219.jpg)
and with my Guitars
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/Dazza1004/Current%20Stuff/SAM_0225.jpg)
The Suhr is about to get knuckled with HD's. The black PRS has Nailbombs and the Les Paul a Rebel Yell / Cold Sweat combo.
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Wow now that is seriously cool!
I would go with that 20th Shiva - it's the one amp I have cravings for besides a Friedman HBE!
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Nice one.
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Nice choices - I see my XTC Classic left a lasting impression ;)
I'd love to try the 20ths out sometime...
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Nice choices - I see my XTC Classic left a lasting impression ;)
I'd love to try the 20ths out sometime...
Sure did, any time you want to come round mate just let me know, you're always welcome (as long as you bring at least one of your shiny private stocks)
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Sounds like a plan Daz - it'll have to be done!
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That's a superb amp you caught. Great collection of guitars too.
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WOW!!! Nice collection of guitars and amps.
How is the super fatboy? I'm thinking about getting one, but need to sell off some gear first.
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WOW!!! Nice collection of guitars and amps.
How is the super fatboy? I'm thinking about getting one, but need to sell off some gear first.
Thanks
Really happy with the Zilla. I have had a couple of 2x12 over the last few of years, and Orange and a Purple Chilli plus I've played through Marshall's etc and they've always sounded poor compared to the Diamond, my band mates used to force me to take the Diamond to gigs as it sounds really good. My old bass player who is also a guitarist is convinced its the best cab he's ever heard.
Anyway, I really wanted a Bogner 2x12 but they are pricey, heavy and too big for the boot of my car so I took a punt with the Zilla, I was really interested in how effective the convertible back would be. I am so glad I went with that option, I've used the Zilla at the last two rehearsals and I have not missed the Diamond at all, the Zilla sounds just as good and is less directional (I have removed one of the back panels so it's now effectively open back). The XTC has so much bottom end thump I really haven't noticed any negatives with the Zilla.
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We'll have to meet up when I get my Bogner 2x12 Daz, I've had one on order for ages but it should be here in around a month or so.
What speakers are you running?
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We'll have to meet up when I get my Bogner 2x12 Daz, I've had one on order for ages but it should be here in around a month or so.
What speakers are you running?
Man, this meet up could result in financial ruin :-)
Sounds good though
Speakers, in the diamond V30's and G12H's in an x. They compliment each other well making this a good cab for pretty much all heads. In the Zilla just V30's to go with the Xtc.
I must admit now I've got the Shiva with it being more upper mid focussed I would really like to try it with something greenback like, maybe G12-65's. I have toyed with the idea of golds but not sure if I am too high gain for them
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woah that's awesome
how do you like the g12h30s combined with the v30s?
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Daz - I'll bring my semi-open back 2x12 with Golds along too then ;)
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WOW!!! Nice collection of guitars and amps.
How is the super fatboy? I'm thinking about getting one, but need to sell off some gear first.
Thanks
Really happy with the Zilla. I have had a couple of 2x12 over the last few of years, and Orange and a Purple Chilli plus I've played through Marshall's etc and they've always sounded poor compared to the Diamond, my band mates used to force me to take the Diamond to gigs as it sounds really good. My old bass player who is also a guitarist is convinced its the best cab he's ever heard.
Anyway, I really wanted a Bogner 2x12 but they are pricey, heavy and too big for the boot of my car so I took a punt with the Zilla, I was really interested in how effective the convertible back would be. I am so glad I went with that option, I've used the Zilla at the last two rehearsals and I have not missed the Diamond at all, the Zilla sounds just as good and is less directional (I have removed one of the back panels so it's now effectively open back). The XTC has so much bottom end thump I really haven't noticed any negatives with the Zilla.
Thanks for your answer, dazza. Seems like a Zilla cab is what's on top of my list. If I could only sell my old amp and cab... :?
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where are you based mate, no worries if you want to have a go with mine before you decide
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Speakers, in the diamond V30's and G12H's in an x. They compliment each other well making this a good cab for pretty much all heads. In the Zilla just V30's to go with the Xtc.
When I was amp shopping a few years ago I tried what became my Splawn through 1 of those Diamond cabs with that speaker combo and it sounded EPIC :lol:
4x12s are too big for me so I ended up with a Zilla Fatboy with 2 V30s instead, but if I did ever get a 4x12 again it'd deffo have that speaker combo in it.
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Guys who've replaced 412s with 212s – how do you find it affects your ability to hear what you're doing, what with it pretty much pointing at your lower legs? I'm toying with the idea of getting rid of my Orange 412 in favour of a 212 for the sake of saving space/not giving myself a hernia, but I have a hard enough time hearing what I'm doing over our bassist and other guitarist as is, so not sure whether this would be a good move.
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It's all in the frequencies - sit yourself right in the mix and you won't have a problem :)
I've gigged both 4x12s and 2x12s, with and without other guitarists, and still heard myself fine.
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The Zilla has an angled baffle so they point more upwards
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It's all in the frequencies - sit yourself right in the mix and you won't have a problem :)
I've gigged both 4x12s and 2x12s, with and without other guitarists, and still heard myself fine.
Hmm, suspect you're probably right about the mix thing, and although I understand the principle, I've never quite managed to pull it off. (Any pointers?) Also, I do find that, depending on where I am in relation to the cab, it does make a difference to how well I can hear myself.
The Zilla has an angled baffle so they point more upwards
Ah, that's interesting. Although presumably, with it starting lower down at an angle, that means it's fairly dependent on how far you are from it?
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Wow, some seriously killer kit you've got.... awesome stuff.
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Hmm, suspect you're probably right about the mix thing, and although I understand the principle, I've never quite managed to pull it off. (Any pointers?) Also, I do find that, depending on where I am in relation to the cab, it does make a difference to how well I can hear myself
Obviously if yo're miles away from your cab it's hard to hear it. Generally, in a band mix, you want less bass, plenty of mids and plenty of treble. In isolation it'll sound a bit thin and harsh, but with a band it'll be spot on!
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Hmm, suspect you're probably right about the mix thing, and although I understand the principle, I've never quite managed to pull it off. (Any pointers?) Also, I do find that, depending on where I am in relation to the cab, it does make a difference to how well I can hear myself
Obviously if yo're miles away from your cab it's hard to hear it. Generally, in a band mix, you want less bass, plenty of mids and plenty of treble. In isolation it'll sound a bit thin and harsh, but with a band it'll be spot on!
Tele's are great for that! :D
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Exactly ;)
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Hmm, suspect you're probably right about the mix thing, and although I understand the principle, I've never quite managed to pull it off. (Any pointers?) Also, I do find that, depending on where I am in relation to the cab, it does make a difference to how well I can hear myself
Obviously if yo're miles away from your cab it's hard to hear it. Generally, in a band mix, you want less bass, plenty of mids and plenty of treble. In isolation it'll sound a bit thin and harsh, but with a band it'll be spot on!
Tele's are great for that! :D
Couldn't agree more. First time I was in a studio and recording with my Tele I thought the tone on its own was extremely sharp and ice pick like. When heard back with bass and drums it sounded fantastic, lots of bite.
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Hmm, suspect you're probably right about the mix thing, and although I understand the principle, I've never quite managed to pull it off. (Any pointers?) Also, I do find that, depending on where I am in relation to the cab, it does make a difference to how well I can hear myself
Obviously if yo're miles away from your cab it's hard to hear it. Generally, in a band mix, you want less bass, plenty of mids and plenty of treble. In isolation it'll sound a bit thin and harsh, but with a band it'll be spot on!
Tele's are great for that! :D
Couldn't agree more. First time I was in a studio and recording with my Tele I thought the tone on its own was extremely sharp and ice pick like. When heard back with bass and drums it sounded fantastic, lots of bite.
Although I'm not for a second suggesting that proper EQing doesn't help massively in this regard, I think another part of the problem is that our other guitarist's going through a Laney GH100L, the volume knob of which pretty much goes from "no sound at all" to "the loudest thing ever" when rotated a fraction of a degree. This, coupled with it being a rather dark and muddy amp (in my experience, at least), means it's quite hard to sit things around it in the mix.