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Re: NAD (Bogner) + Belated NCD (Zilla)
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2012, 12:59:12 PM »
Speakers, in the diamond V30's and G12H's in an x. They compliment each other well making this a good cab for pretty much all heads. In the Zilla just V30's to go with the Xtc.

When I was amp shopping a few years ago I tried what became my Splawn through 1 of those Diamond cabs with that speaker combo and it sounded EPIC  :lol:

4x12s are too big for me so I ended up with a Zilla Fatboy with 2 V30s instead, but if I did ever get a 4x12 again it'd deffo have that speaker combo in it.
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Re: NAD (Bogner) + Belated NCD (Zilla)
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2012, 04:40:49 PM »
Guys who've replaced 412s with 212s – how do you find it affects your ability to hear what you're doing, what with it pretty much pointing at your lower legs? I'm toying with the idea of getting rid of my Orange 412 in favour of a 212 for the sake of saving space/not giving myself a hernia, but I have a hard enough time hearing what I'm doing over our bassist and other guitarist as is, so not sure whether this would be a good move.

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Re: NAD (Bogner) + Belated NCD (Zilla)
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2012, 05:32:47 PM »
It's all in the frequencies - sit yourself right in the mix and you won't have a problem  :)

I've gigged both 4x12s and 2x12s, with and without other guitarists, and still heard myself fine.

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Re: NAD (Bogner) + Belated NCD (Zilla)
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2012, 08:39:32 PM »
The Zilla has an angled baffle so they point more upwards

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Re: NAD (Bogner) + Belated NCD (Zilla)
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2012, 09:33:11 PM »
It's all in the frequencies - sit yourself right in the mix and you won't have a problem  :)

I've gigged both 4x12s and 2x12s, with and without other guitarists, and still heard myself fine.
Hmm, suspect you're probably right about the mix thing, and although I understand the principle, I've never quite managed to pull it off. (Any pointers?) Also, I do find that, depending on where I am in relation to the cab, it does make a difference to how well I can hear myself.


The Zilla has an angled baffle so they point more upwards
Ah, that's interesting. Although presumably, with it starting lower down at an angle, that means it's fairly dependent on how far you are from it?

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Re: NAD (Bogner) + Belated NCD (Zilla)
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2012, 09:49:33 PM »
Wow, some seriously killer kit you've got.... awesome stuff.

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Re: NAD (Bogner) + Belated NCD (Zilla)
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2012, 10:27:48 PM »
Hmm, suspect you're probably right about the mix thing, and although I understand the principle, I've never quite managed to pull it off. (Any pointers?) Also, I do find that, depending on where I am in relation to the cab, it does make a difference to how well I can hear myself

Obviously if yo're miles away from your cab it's hard to hear it.  Generally, in a band mix, you want less bass, plenty of mids and plenty of treble.  In isolation it'll sound a bit thin and harsh, but with a band it'll be spot on!

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Re: NAD (Bogner) + Belated NCD (Zilla)
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2012, 11:14:50 PM »
Hmm, suspect you're probably right about the mix thing, and although I understand the principle, I've never quite managed to pull it off. (Any pointers?) Also, I do find that, depending on where I am in relation to the cab, it does make a difference to how well I can hear myself

Obviously if yo're miles away from your cab it's hard to hear it.  Generally, in a band mix, you want less bass, plenty of mids and plenty of treble.  In isolation it'll sound a bit thin and harsh, but with a band it'll be spot on!

Tele's are great for that!  :D
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Re: NAD (Bogner) + Belated NCD (Zilla)
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2012, 11:31:15 PM »
Exactly  ;)

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Re: NAD (Bogner) + Belated NCD (Zilla)
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2012, 12:54:54 AM »
Hmm, suspect you're probably right about the mix thing, and although I understand the principle, I've never quite managed to pull it off. (Any pointers?) Also, I do find that, depending on where I am in relation to the cab, it does make a difference to how well I can hear myself

Obviously if yo're miles away from your cab it's hard to hear it.  Generally, in a band mix, you want less bass, plenty of mids and plenty of treble.  In isolation it'll sound a bit thin and harsh, but with a band it'll be spot on!

Tele's are great for that!  :D

Couldn't agree more. First time I was in a studio and recording with my Tele I thought the tone on its own was extremely sharp and ice pick like. When heard back with bass and drums it sounded fantastic, lots of bite.
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Re: NAD (Bogner) + Belated NCD (Zilla)
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2012, 12:06:20 PM »
Hmm, suspect you're probably right about the mix thing, and although I understand the principle, I've never quite managed to pull it off. (Any pointers?) Also, I do find that, depending on where I am in relation to the cab, it does make a difference to how well I can hear myself

Obviously if yo're miles away from your cab it's hard to hear it.  Generally, in a band mix, you want less bass, plenty of mids and plenty of treble.  In isolation it'll sound a bit thin and harsh, but with a band it'll be spot on!

Tele's are great for that!  :D

Couldn't agree more. First time I was in a studio and recording with my Tele I thought the tone on its own was extremely sharp and ice pick like. When heard back with bass and drums it sounded fantastic, lots of bite.
Although I'm not for a second suggesting that proper EQing doesn't help massively in this regard, I think another part of the problem is that our other guitarist's going through a Laney GH100L, the volume knob of which pretty much goes from "no sound at all" to "the loudest thing ever" when rotated a fraction of a degree. This, coupled with it being a rather dark and muddy amp (in my experience, at least), means it's quite hard to sit things around it in the mix.