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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: gwEm on November 04, 2012, 06:22:49 PM
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Named after Rudolf. She has a lovely tortoiseshell coat. Pretty shy until you actually hold her, then suddenly she loves all the attention :D
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Love her! :D
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Don't particularly care for cats but that one looks gorgeous.
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Love her colouring!
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Nice cat. Looks like it's been smoking one of those exploding cigarettes.
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I thought you were going to say named after Rudy Schenker because she constantly has her mouth open .(or has an affinity for flying V's)
Real cutie though - hope she loves her new home!
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Sweet!
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I really like the paint job in this one, looks like a keeper. Congrats!
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aw :) very cute
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Funky wee cat, good stuff :)
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I also thought Venus the Chimera cat had something of a Schenker theme about it - similar tortoiseshell colouring otherwise
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/416828_304143799698711_1792946413_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/417083_312234242223000_1783443574_n.jpg)
https://www.facebook.com/VenusTheAmazingChimeraCat (https://www.facebook.com/VenusTheAmazingChimeraCat)
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That is a wild colour scheme on Venus!!
I just simply thought that Rudolf is a cool guy to name my cat after ;) but if you look closely, you can imagine a sort-of harlequin look on cat-Schenker's facial pattern
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I really like the paint job in this one, looks like a keeper. Congrats!
:D
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I like Michael a little better than Rudy, but what do I know? Congrats!
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I like Michael a little better than Rudy, but what do I know? Congrats!
Michael certainly has all the cool lead licks :) I just thought Rudi is alot more reliable, which is an important quality in a cat :-P In reality I like them both of course, but my cat is definitely named from Rudi
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Good reasoning, can't argue you on that one!
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I like Michael a little better than Rudy, but what do I know? Congrats!
Michael certainly has all the cool lead licks :) I just thought Rudi is alot more reliable, which is an important quality in a cat :-P In reality I like them both of course, but my cat is definitely named from Rudi
Rudi is a nice name for a moggy.
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I also thought Venus the Chimera cat had something of a Schenker theme about it - similar tortoiseshell colouring otherwise
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/416828_304143799698711_1792946413_n.jpg)
holy cr@p :lol:
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I also thought Venus the Chimera cat had something of a Schenker theme about it - similar tortoiseshell colouring otherwise
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/416828_304143799698711_1792946413_n.jpg)
holy cr@p :lol:
Could be a batman villain like Twoface
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Almost like a cross of my 2, though the tabby is a grey one not beige. Interesting cool cat though. Gareth, glad you've joined the cat loving community. I have to post pictures of mine, but am travelling.
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Awesome - cats rock.
Of course, cat ownership is 83.7% likely to be followed by marriage and kids within a year...
(I did of course completely make that up).
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Of course, cat ownership is 83.7% likely to be followed by marriage and kids within a year...
I was in the 16.3%. :|
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Shes turning out to be a very sweet cat, although she eats worryingly little. Not cat experienced, so don't know if this is a problem - she is only small obviously.
Mr.Bump may have a point. The future Mrs gwEm is treating Schenker a bit like a baby at times. This may be a good thing - distraction from actual baby.
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Mr.Bump may have a point. The future Mrs gwEm is treating Schenker a bit like a baby at times. This may be a good thing - distraction from actual baby.
You're screwed. I was in the 83.7%.
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Awesome kitty!!!
I've rescued a eared thing from the streets too :P... his name is Mr Provolone!
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I've rescued a eared thing from the streets too :P... his name is Mr Provolone!
That's one hell of a name! :)
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It would seem that Schenker is actually sick. Little thing has been emptying her stomach in her litter tray all evening. Poor bugger :/
Fernando: like that name
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its not unusual cat behaviour
Mine do it a lot - it sounds like they are turning them selves inside out but doesnt seem to bother them. quite often they start eating it again straight away. I know its because they ate too much, just by the amount that comes out
tried things like feeding smaller amounts more often and cutting out lactose but they still do it and they still dont seem bothered
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Possibly, but she has glazed eyes and is staying in her bed rather than wandering about the house in a excitable way. Considering the vet
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I would seek advice from the vet - even a phonecall first.
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I would seek advice from the vet - even a phonecall first.
Ms gwEm is taking Schenker there this afternoon.
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Could be a batman villain like Twoface
:lol:
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Good - would hate for the poor thing to be unwell and be suffering.
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Good - would hate for the poor thing to be unwell and be suffering.
Vet says Schenker is very unwell and needs to stay in. Obviously since she is a new cat I've not had time to organise pet insurance, so this will cost £300.
Its a moral dilemma at this point, we've had her less than a week(!). Ms gwEm is quite distressed, so shes gone in.
Whichever way one looks at it, this is a sad start to cat ownership. I must admit to being pretty fond of the little furry thing myself though am attempting some kind of emotional / logical balance. Not easy.
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Our thoughts are with you both Gareth - keeping fingers crossed.
I know what you mean about sudden expenses.
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Our thoughts are with you both Gareth - keeping fingers crossed.
I know what you mean about sudden expenses.
Its a weird one: I always dreamed of owning a cat and was very excited by Schenker. For months I already knew that would be the name of my cat. I like her alot, but haven't reached a stage of deep bonding in the short time (6 days) shes been around. She cost £75, plus the paraphernalia on top where I got decent stuff of course. So in the cold logical sense, £300 for care is too much.
I don't really feel like its right to take her back like a broken hi-fi and ask for an exchange - or maybe I could. I feel some duty of care since we picked her out as being a cool cat.
Sort of trying to work out where a line has to be drawn. Of course, human life is a sacred thing, but how far does one apply this to a pet.. especially a very new one.
I never really thought about this in detail before. Of course, if she was fully integrated at home, and we had pet insurance sorted, then things would be alot clearer there. Of course things can go wrong immediately, but even though shes not been outside and had good food etc I didn't expect it to turn out this way at all.
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If you have only had her a few days and you bought her from a breeder type thing - then she was ill before you bought her , and I would certainly be speaking to the breeder as it maybe something communicable to other cats they have.
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If you have only had her a few days and you bought her from a breeder type thing - then she was ill before you bought her , and I would certainly be speaking to the breeder as it maybe something communicable to other cats they have.
Thats a good thought, I will do so. In fact she seemed fine until yesterday really. Tuesday night she ate surprisingly little, but was otherwise well it appeared.
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NOTE: I like cats but I'm not moggy soppy
You paid £75 to a breeder and got sold a sick cat which will now cost you £300! :o
I've read about stuff like this before and I think the breeder is liable.
Before you all jump on me and say "aww do whatever it takes" - Take a step back and think about the fact the cat was sold and bought not given away and that commercial aspect is continued by the vet who will also bill gwem.
I'd be pretty cold hearted about this deal.
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I don't really feel like its right to take her back like a broken hi-fi and ask for an exchange - or maybe I could. I feel some duty of care since we picked her out as being a cool cat.
Sort of trying to work out where a line has to be drawn. Of course, human life is a sacred thing, but how far does one apply this to a pet.. especially a very new one.
I never really thought about this in detail before. Of course, if she was fully integrated at home, and we had pet insurance sorted, then things would be alot clearer there. Of course things can go wrong immediately, but even though shes not been outside and had good food etc I didn't expect it to turn out this way at all.
its not an easy one.
We took in a rescue cat about 10 years ago. spent two years forking out vet bills and special dietary stuff. she was on heart pills as well (sold as two years old - actually closer to 10).
we were ok with all that but when it came to exploratory operations it just didnt seem fair to let her suffer any more and honestly we couldn't afford it.
a good vet will tell you whether its worth it or not. we had one that seemed to be interested in trying anything, then we saw another and she was very frank and honest. I am glad she was. it seemed like one vet was interested in profit, one was interested in animal welfare.
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If I was a bachelor I'd most likely stiffen my upper lip and take that view too Dave. As a deal it is a bad one no question. Tearful missus on the phone at the vet asking what she should do has certainly made me think it over alot more than usual.
I won't be spending extra at this point though.
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NOTE: I like cats but I'm not moggy soppy
You paid £75 to a breeder and got sold a sick cat which will now cost you £300! :o
I've read about stuff like this before and I think the breeder is liable.
Before you all jump on me and say "aww do whatever it takes" - Take a step back and think about the fact the cat was sold and bought not given away and that commercial aspect is continued by the vet who will also bill gwem.
I'd be pretty cold hearted about this deal.
I'm glad that Dave has posted this as I was certainly thinking it as well as being concerned for the welfare of the cat.
I honestly think there is 2 sides to this situation that you should be looking at and addressing (as if you don't have enough on your plate)
You should certainly be approaching the breeder - especially if they are doing it as a business rather than the my daughter's cat had kittens - please buy one and give it a happy home type scenario.
You may find that at the least they might feel obliged to refund your purchase (I don't mean to sound heartless as I am not - especially where cats are concerned), butI do wonder if it might reflect the way they operate and the "level of care" going on by them as a breeder.
I think you should be able to stand up for that principle and all that goes with it as well as the caring compassionate side caring about Rudi and what is best for the cat's health.
It may be that you can take a bit of advice from the vet if they are reputable.
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...Tearful missus on the phone at the vet asking what she should do has certainly made me think it over alot more than usual.
I won't be spending extra at this point though.
As a non cat owning bachelor, I'm not suggesting you euthanize the missus without much deep consideration but it really might prevent much suffering and be the cheapest option in the long run...
PDT_043
I'll get me coat...
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It's very difficult, I don't know what you should do ultimately but agree with Jon 100% that you should at least have a conversation with the breeder - don't necessarily go in all guns blazing but certainly make them aware of the situation.
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It's very difficult, I don't know what you should do ultimately but agree with Jon 100% that you should at least have a conversation with the breeder - don't necessarily go in all guns blazing but certainly make them aware of the situation.
Definitely.
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I'm not an animal lover in the slightest, and don't usually take any interest in pet threads at all. But I have been watching this thread since the start - she is a cutie.
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Really hope everything turns out alright.
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Dave's first comment was the obvious elephant in the room, it needed to be said, I was thinking it certainly.
Anyway, furry thing is doing better this morning. Not been able to reach breeder so far.
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Dave's first comment was the obvious elephant in the room, it needed to be said, I was thinking it certainly.
Anyway, furry thing is doing better this morning. Not been able to reach breeder so far.
Glad to hear she's doing a bit better today.
In your position I wouldn't want to be returning the cat to the breeder, but I would hope to try and get something from them in compensation towards the vets bills etc.
As someone said, it may be that there's something wrong with the care they provide that could affect other cats they've got or have sold recently.
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Glad things are looking up mate.
The breeder must be followed up if only to make sure they take better care of their cat's welfare in future.
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I think you should be able to stand up for that principle and all that goes with it as well as the caring compassionate side caring about Rudi and what is best for the cat's health.
+1
EDIT: good news she's doing a bit better :)
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I would go after the breeder too. Our two are rescue cats, but we got full medical history with them (they were $125 each, but had been neutered and had all the shots required, so the cost is really only the outlay of keeping them for 4 months).
I would ask for something to prove that the breeder had looked after Schenker properly whilst in their care. Glad to hear that she's doing better. We were warned that ours might get diarrhea from changing the brand of food we give them, but they still ate OK).
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This whole episode has reached it's grim and inevitable conclusion.
Sadly Schenker has had to be put down.
The vet was very good and had already contacted the breeder and had also warned the relevant authorities. Seems there's been occasional problems from them.
When we went back to see them they were very apologetic and promised a full refund. The explained they were taking additional quarantine and cleaning precautions, though honestly I couldn't see much of those going on myself. I'm planning to add my report to that of the vet.
Any way - lessons learnt include getting pet insurance, and detailed reputation checks. On the positive side we found a good vet.
I'm philosophical about the whole thing, but as I say it is somewhat depressing. A cat isn't a person of course but nevertheless this was a grim episode.
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Gareth - our thoughts are with you and your lady.
So sorry to hear about Schenker - poor thing
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Desperately sad news. Very sorry to hear this turn of events.
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I'm really sorry to hear that Gareth. I'm sure Amy is really upset and tell her I hope she won't be put off getting another cat. We haven't had our cats very long, but I was glad they were both safe from the flood here, even though I had a lot of equipment destroyed. They soon become part of your life. It is a shame that the breeder has had issues, though I don't know how you would have found out about it beforehand.
I'm sorry that your first experience has been such a nightmare. Perhaps if you get another, you could get it through your vet or service affiliated with them (that's how we got ours).
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This whole episode has reached it's grim and inevitable conclusion.
Sadly Schenker has had to be put down.
I'm philosophical about the whole thing, but as I say it is somewhat depressing. A cat isn't a person of course but nevertheless this was a grim episode.
Sorry to hear that G. As you say, it's not the same as dealing with the loss of a person but having a pet put to sleep is a troubling experience, it hits surprisingly hard.
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it is troubling and it will make you doubt getting another.
but do, you wont regret it.
ours are aloof, ignorant and downright rude. but then occasionally they decide they want a fuss and its a lot better than when a dog wants a fuss. I know the cats are not pack animals seeking my approval.
My daughter is now nearly 9 months old and the cats have always stayed out the way... but now she is getting to the age she really enjoys stroking (grabbing handfuls of fur) its quite fun. they obviously enjoy the attention, whilst keeping a respectful distance when needed. but she really just lights up every time they walk in the room, and now they dare to get close its even better
Syd & Nancy (AKA big one and fluffy bottom) are part of the family that could not be replaced.
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The best cat I have ever had was one called magpie I got near my 13th birthday on friday the 13th. Her name got shortened to Maggie (also my mothers name, oddly). She killed or scared off at least 4 other cats we had at the time till she was the only one remaining. She was obviously mistreated when we got her and even a bit violent, but you always felt sorry for her. She had a bandit mask marking. We nicknamed her Satan.
We let her have kittens, only 3 and they were all a bit ugly. we let all our female cats have kittens and usually kept at least one - but gave all of Satan's away (in fairness we were already up to 5 cats at this point). She mellowed a bit from having kittens, but not much
She used to sit on top of the fridge (not uncommon for cats, its warm down the back) but would swipe at anyone who ever opened it up - especially at my dad returning from a night shift
about 5 years ago my dad starting looking after adults with learning difficulties. Satan really took to one of them, in fact i think she held him hostage. he dare not move once she was sitting on his lap. both seemed to be happy with the situation.
she did pass away last year, and whilst i have one or two scars from that cat she really was a proper character and I shed a tear when she passed
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I'm sorry that your first experience has been such a nightmare. Perhaps if you get another, you could get it through your vet or service affiliated with them (that's how we got ours).
Good idea - avoiding the feline equivalent of a puppy farm is wise .
Often getting one from a family whose cat has had an accidental litter can be a good way to go - or sometimes adopting one from Battersea Dogs home/ Cat Rescue type places is good (and noble)
Alexa went through a similar experience with a cat years ago who was ill from before she got her and it was heartbreaking for her, although the other (supposedly fragile) Persian female kitty is still going strong some 15 years later
I've been very lucky with Tigger who was a stray who turned up at Feline HQ (was living rough in the garden) and has become a great companion. He's pretty good with people although a bit of an antisocial psycho towards other cats - very territorial in spite of my getting him neutered.
He's a big sturdy cat - weighing in at 6kg - you will have met him enough times here.
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The place where we went seemed decent enough to me, but then I'm no cat breeder, so what do I know.
The plan at first was for a rescue cat in fact, but at our local rescue centres there a lot of competition for indoor cats. After going there each weekend for 3 weeks we decided to go a different route - no doubt a mistake.
We may get a cat again eventually, but probably not for the foreseeable future at least.
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ours are aloof, ignorant and downright rude.
Exactly why I love them. And worryingly just like my taste in women.
It's sad, but it sounds like you're being entirely pragmatic about it Gareth, which is what's needed.
And I'm sure you'll get another one. A home isn't a home without a cat stealing all the best chairs.
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Sorry to hear that Gwem :(
Hope you do decide to get another 1 in the future, they can really 'brighten up' a household as the previous posts on here have proved :lol:
Until we got our cat Ted 4 years ago I'd always had Dogs from being young and wasn't over relishing the idea of a Cat coming in. It took a bit of time but we eventually got used to each other, we can both be miserable gits at times :lol:, but now I wouldn't be without him and would definitely get another if/when the inevitable happens.
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that sucks :(
even having it a short time you can get very attached, we had a kitten when i was 13 or 14 and it got knocked down by a car after a couple of months. I was very upset.
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Sorry to hear about the little lady :(
And my point of view is: as a pet, I have it higher standards than human... animals knows NO hipocrisy...
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i think we'll get another one too..
just remembered a very great moment where I was sitting cross legged on my floor working on some electronics. Schenker came over to help and sat very close, not interfering, just studying what i was doing. she was quite happy and observed for some time - very cute.