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Re: NCD - Schenker
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2012, 11:12:06 AM »
I would seek advice from the vet - even a phonecall first.
Ms gwEm is taking Schenker there this afternoon.
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Re: NCD - Schenker
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2012, 05:07:18 PM »
Could be a batman villain like Twoface

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Re: NCD - Schenker
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2012, 05:18:15 PM »
Good - would hate for the poor thing to be unwell and be suffering.
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Re: NCD - Schenker
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2012, 05:32:22 PM »
Good - would hate for the poor thing to be unwell and be suffering.

Vet says Schenker is very unwell and needs to stay in. Obviously since she is a new cat I've not had time to organise pet insurance, so this will cost £300.

Its a moral dilemma at this point, we've had her less than a week(!). Ms gwEm is quite distressed, so shes gone in.

Whichever way one looks at it, this is a sad start to cat ownership. I must admit to being pretty fond of the little furry thing myself though am attempting some kind of emotional / logical balance. Not easy.
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Re: NCD - Schenker
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2012, 05:45:10 PM »
Our thoughts are with you both Gareth - keeping fingers crossed.

I know what you mean about sudden expenses.
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Re: NCD - Schenker
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2012, 05:56:53 PM »
Our thoughts are with you both Gareth - keeping fingers crossed.

I know what you mean about sudden expenses.

Its a weird one: I always dreamed of owning a cat and was very excited by Schenker. For months I already knew that would be the name of my cat. I like her alot, but haven't reached a stage of deep bonding in the short time (6 days) shes been around. She cost £75, plus the paraphernalia on top where I got decent stuff of course. So in the cold logical sense, £300 for care is too much.

I don't really feel like its right to take her back like a broken hi-fi and ask for an exchange - or maybe I could. I feel some duty of care since we picked her out as being a cool cat.

Sort of trying to work out where a line has to be drawn. Of course, human life is a sacred thing, but how far does one apply this to a pet.. especially a very new one.

I never really thought about this in detail before. Of course, if she was fully integrated at home, and we had pet insurance sorted, then things would be alot clearer there. Of course things can go wrong immediately, but even though shes not been outside and had good food etc I didn't expect it to turn out this way at all.
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Re: NCD - Schenker
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2012, 06:07:33 PM »
If you have only had her a few days and you bought her from a breeder type thing - then she was ill before you bought her , and I would certainly be speaking to the breeder as it maybe something communicable to other cats they have.
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Re: NCD - Schenker
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2012, 06:10:11 PM »
If you have only had her a few days and you bought her from a breeder type thing - then she was ill before you bought her , and I would certainly be speaking to the breeder as it maybe something communicable to other cats they have.

Thats a good thought, I will do so. In fact she seemed fine until yesterday really. Tuesday night she ate surprisingly little, but was otherwise well it appeared.
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Re: NCD - Schenker
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2012, 09:16:18 PM »
NOTE: I like cats but I'm not moggy soppy

You paid £75 to a breeder and got sold a sick cat which will now cost you £300!  :o

I've read about stuff like this before and I think the breeder is liable.

Before you all jump on me and say "aww do whatever it takes" - Take a step back and think about the fact the cat was sold and bought not given away and that commercial aspect is continued by the vet who will also bill gwem.

I'd be pretty cold hearted about this deal.

 



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Re: NCD - Schenker
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2012, 09:58:07 PM »
I don't really feel like its right to take her back like a broken hi-fi and ask for an exchange - or maybe I could. I feel some duty of care since we picked her out as being a cool cat.

Sort of trying to work out where a line has to be drawn. Of course, human life is a sacred thing, but how far does one apply this to a pet.. especially a very new one.

I never really thought about this in detail before. Of course, if she was fully integrated at home, and we had pet insurance sorted, then things would be alot clearer there. Of course things can go wrong immediately, but even though shes not been outside and had good food etc I didn't expect it to turn out this way at all.

its not an easy one.

We took in a rescue cat about 10 years ago.  spent two years forking out vet bills and special dietary stuff.  she was on heart pills as well (sold as two years old - actually closer to 10).   

we were ok with all that but when it came to exploratory operations it just didnt seem fair to let her suffer any more and honestly we couldn't afford it.

a good vet will tell you whether its worth it or not.  we had one that seemed to be interested in trying anything, then we saw another and she was very frank and honest.  I am glad she was.  it seemed like one vet was interested in profit, one was interested in animal welfare.


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Re: NCD - Schenker
« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2012, 10:04:35 PM »
If I was a bachelor I'd most likely stiffen my upper lip and take that view too Dave. As a deal it is a bad one no question. Tearful missus on the phone at the vet asking what she should do has certainly made me think it over alot more than usual.

I won't be spending extra at this point though.
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Re: NCD - Schenker
« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2012, 10:18:37 PM »
NOTE: I like cats but I'm not moggy soppy

You paid £75 to a breeder and got sold a sick cat which will now cost you £300!  :o

I've read about stuff like this before and I think the breeder is liable.

Before you all jump on me and say "aww do whatever it takes" - Take a step back and think about the fact the cat was sold and bought not given away and that commercial aspect is continued by the vet who will also bill gwem.

I'd be pretty cold hearted about this deal.

 

I'm glad that Dave has posted this as I was certainly thinking it as well as being concerned for the welfare of the cat.

I honestly think there is 2 sides to this situation that you should be looking at and addressing (as if you don't have enough on your plate)

You should certainly be approaching the breeder - especially if they are doing it as a business rather than the my daughter's cat had kittens - please buy one and give it a happy home type scenario.

You may find that at the least they might feel obliged to refund your purchase (I don't mean to sound heartless as I am not - especially where cats are concerned), butI do wonder if it might reflect the way they operate and the "level of care" going on by them as a breeder.

I think you should be able to stand up for that principle and all that goes with it as well as the caring compassionate side caring about Rudi and what is best for the cat's health.

It may be that you can take a bit of advice from the vet if they are reputable.
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Re: NCD - Schenker
« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2012, 11:03:02 PM »
...Tearful missus on the phone at the vet asking what she should do has certainly made me think it over alot more than usual.

I won't be spending extra at this point though.

As a non cat owning bachelor, I'm not suggesting you euthanize the missus without much deep consideration but it really might prevent much suffering and be the cheapest option in the long run...  



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Re: NCD - Schenker
« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2012, 11:08:30 PM »
It's very difficult, I don't know what you should do ultimately but agree with Jon 100% that you should at least have a conversation with the breeder - don't necessarily go in all guns blazing but certainly make them aware of the situation.
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Re: NCD - Schenker
« Reply #44 on: November 09, 2012, 06:33:07 AM »
It's very difficult, I don't know what you should do ultimately but agree with Jon 100% that you should at least have a conversation with the breeder - don't necessarily go in all guns blazing but certainly make them aware of the situation.

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