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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: TheyCallMeVolume on December 03, 2012, 03:06:42 PM

Title: BKP Cables
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on December 03, 2012, 03:06:42 PM
Anyone know about BKP's cables?
Title: Re: BKP Cables
Post by: Philly Q on December 03, 2012, 03:16:27 PM
Only that Tim's posted about them in "Latest News".
Title: Re: BKP Cables
Post by: AndyR on December 03, 2012, 06:00:06 PM
I heard about them on, ahem, twitter...

Immediately followed the link and found that they come in two lengths...

Other than that...
Title: Re: BKP Cables
Post by: Philly Q on December 03, 2012, 06:19:11 PM
I heard about them on, ahem, twitter...

TWITTER???!!!

I would never have thought you'd be a Twitterer.....  :P
Title: Re: BKP Cables
Post by: Toe-Knee on December 03, 2012, 07:41:25 PM
I imagine theyre just the same as the normal van damme cables that you can get on ebay for £14 just with a bkp logo slapped on the jack.

If so they are very nice cables. I use them exclusively but I use the even lower capacitance ones.
Title: Re: BKP Cables
Post by: Oli on December 03, 2012, 11:03:56 PM
Yea it appears that it's regular VDC instrument cable and Neutrik connectors- nice touch with the BKP logo, though!
Title: Re: BKP Cables
Post by: Brow on December 04, 2012, 12:38:56 PM
I've been getting the same cable with the same jacks in the same and custom lengths for cheaper from somewhere else for years, so I'll carry on doing that.

I like the fact they've added cables to the mix though.
Title: Re: BKP Cables
Post by: AndyR on December 04, 2012, 12:40:27 PM
I heard about them on, ahem, twitter...

TWITTER???!!!

I would never have thought you'd be a Twitterer.....  :P

I know, I know... :lol:
Title: Re: BKP Cables
Post by: MDV on December 19, 2012, 05:51:08 PM
I've been getting the same cable with the same jacks in the same and custom lengths for cheaper from somewhere else for years, so I'll carry on doing that.

I like the fact they've added cables to the mix though.

Cleartone?

They're cleartones. The BK cables, that is. In that they're van damme and neutrik. I dont use anything but cleartones (they just cut the cable and solder it up for you).
Title: Re: BKP Cables
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on December 19, 2012, 06:09:23 PM
I got pestered into having a couple by Ben last time I ordered a pickup - so should ono about them in the next week or so.

I like Neutrik connectors on good cables - I often make up my own although I also use Whirlwind as they are good quality.
Title: Re: BKP Cables
Post by: richard on December 19, 2012, 08:10:22 PM
Speaking of low capacitance cables I came across this a couple of days ago:

Ritchie Fliegler: Speaking of cables, something to think about – you can spend hundreds of dollars on low-capacitance cables now, and indeed they work: The lower the capacitance of the cable, the more high frequencies will come through, especially if the guitar’s volume control is backed off at all. However, just remember that whether you’re talking about Fender or Marshall or Mesa/Boogie or whoever, the guys who designed these guitars and these amps did not use these expensive low-capacitance cables. So your basic 20-foot Pro Co cable with your Les Paul or your Strat through your Fender or your Marshall — that’s the sound the designers wanted you to hear. That doesn’t mean if you prefer the sound of the expensive cables you’re wrong. Not at all. We all have our preferences. But it’s worth remembering what the designers were using when they put it all together and said, “This is the sound we want.”
Title: Re: BKP Cables
Post by: Brow on December 19, 2012, 10:52:04 PM
Cleartone?

They're cleartones. The BK cables, that is. In that they're van damme and neutrik. I dont use anything but cleartones (they just cut the cable and solder it up for you).

Yep, that's the 1s!
Title: Re: BKP Cables
Post by: Fourth Feline on December 19, 2012, 11:23:19 PM
Cleartone?

They're cleartones. The BK cables, that is. In that they're van damme and neutrik. I dont use anything but cleartones (they just cut the cable and solder it up for you).

Yep, that's the 1s!

Excellent !  I have loved using Clear tone cables for some years now ;  I think it was Twinfan that put me onto them at the outset.  I play a clean / detailed style - and the Cleartones have always been as detailed and revealing a cable - as B.K.Ps have been a detailed and revealing pickup. 

Win / Win  8)
Title: Re: BKP Cables
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on December 20, 2012, 02:37:15 PM
When are you too clear and detailed?
Title: Re: BKP Cables
Post by: Fourth Feline on December 20, 2012, 04:47:35 PM
When are you too clear and detailed?

Good question !  :lol:

To clarify my description further , I sometimes switch over to a 'Monster' Jazz Cable,  if I want a silky rounding off of the edgiest highs - and general 'artificial sweetener' - without  losing  articulation  on the quieter phrasing and vibrato e.t.c.  Cleartone cables usually mean  slightly tamed  E.Q arrangements being needed  on the Amplifier / Amp modeller itself, for Chord Melody work .  

However ;

Between the two brands of cable ,  the Cleartone  would be the great all rounder - and have more edge / sparkle  if the guitar /pickups were capable of giving me edge and sparkle to begin with.   In that way I would say Cleartone cables seem to track the guitar output more faithfully,  but if one is playing a very clean yet traditionally  slightly muted tone / style ,   the Monster Jazz cable quickly changes any amp into 'That Jazz Thang' - with minimum E.Q changes on the Amplifier /  pots on the guitar.   For my purposes, there would be such a thing as a cable being too honest , even if I wanted it to sound  otherwise clear.  Bear in mind, my Amps for this style would be predominantly solid state amps ( Roland Cube / Henrikksen Jazzamp /  Phil Jones A.A.D Cub / Guitar Rig 3 Modeling e.t.c ) - so the end results would not be running through / being tamed by,  nice hot and sweaty Valves .   8)
Title: Re: BKP Cables
Post by: 5F6-A on January 03, 2013, 07:48:36 AM
I use a Vovox in studio and a cheaper cable for practicing ang gigs. This 'cheaper' cable is very similar to the BKP cable with similar construction and the right capacitance for my ears (around 80 pF per meter). I use 15' (around 5 m) cables with top Neutrik plugs and I love the tone with my Strat with Apaches!