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Title: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: dingleberry on April 13, 2013, 03:00:32 AM
RIDICULOUS!
Title: Re: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: Telerocker on April 13, 2013, 11:43:27 AM
Ridiculous good, you mean?
Title: Re: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: lamp on April 13, 2013, 12:56:06 PM
One word review of this review: AMBIGUOUS!
Title: Re: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: Philly Q on April 13, 2013, 11:26:50 PM
One word review of this review: AMBIGUOUS!

 :lol:
Title: Re: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: dingleberry on April 14, 2013, 12:38:53 AM
Yes ridiculously good, two word review didn't have the same pizzazz tho

Sounds exactly as advertised, vintage, warm yet bright and clear, fantastic for classic rock.  The only 'weakness' if you can call it that is I find it fairly weak when coil split, I'll be wiring my push/pull for parallel operation in the near future to address that.

also...

One word review of this review: AMBIGUOUS!

This is one of the funniest things I've read on this board, a literal LOL this time, kudos!
Title: Re: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: Philly Q on April 14, 2013, 10:46:29 AM
The only 'weakness' if you can call it that is I find it fairly weak when coil split, I'll be wiring my push/pull for parallel operation in the near future to address that.

Fair point, I think that's par for the course when splitting humbuckers, especially lower-output ones.

There is a method which I think PRS use, employing a resistor so in split mode you're not "losing" all of the second coil, giving a slightly fuller sound.  I don't know how to actually do the wiring, though.
Title: Re: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: Kiichi on April 14, 2013, 02:07:28 PM
There is a method which I think PRS use, employing a resistor so in split mode you're not "losing" all of the second coil, giving a slightly fuller sound.  I don't know how to actually do the wiring, though.
I gotta look that up, sounds very interresting indeed. Anyone lurking perhaps got more on that?
Title: Re: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: Philly Q on April 14, 2013, 03:24:23 PM
There is a method which I think PRS use, employing a resistor so in split mode you're not "losing" all of the second coil, giving a slightly fuller sound.  I don't know how to actually do the wiring, though.
I gotta look that up, sounds very interresting indeed. Anyone lurking perhaps got more on that?

Found it.  Here it is on the PRS 2012 DGT model.  Actually uses two resistors, a 2.2k and a 1.1k (different values for each pickup, I guess). 

If you have the patience, you could mess about with various different resistors to see what effect they have.

http://www.prsguitars.com/csc/schematics/2012/dgt_2012.pdf (http://www.prsguitars.com/csc/schematics/2012/dgt_2012.pdf)
Title: Re: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: Kiichi on April 14, 2013, 04:33:12 PM
Found it.  Here it is on the PRS 2012 DGT model.  Actually uses two resistors, a 2.2k and a 1.1k (different values for each pickup, I guess). 

If you have the patience, you could mess about with various different resistors to see what effect they have.

http://www.prsguitars.com/csc/schematics/2012/dgt_2012.pdf (http://www.prsguitars.com/csc/schematics/2012/dgt_2012.pdf)
Thanks Philly, you are as always a gentleman and a scholar =)

Messing around with different values is not even that hard if you just connect some crocodile clips. I will definetly have a go at this one next time an opportunity comes around...or as soon as I can get the motivation to fix the slightly faulty wiring on my Crawler axe...still donīt know what broke there, but while I am at it...
Title: Re: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: dave_mc on April 14, 2013, 05:34:05 PM
One word review of this review: AMBIGUOUS!

:lol:
Title: Re: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on April 14, 2013, 11:20:14 PM
Glad you like the Mule! Have to add it to my collection sometime soon.
Title: Re: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: Mr. Air on April 15, 2013, 12:55:38 PM
Glad you like the Mule! Have to add it to my collection sometime soon.

Same here although I predict it's not gonna happen for me unfortunately.
Title: Re: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on April 15, 2013, 03:27:15 PM
Glad you like the Mule! Have to add it to my collection sometime soon.

Same here although I predict it's not gonna happen for me unfortunately.

So many pickups, so little time!


And money.....
Title: Re: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: froglord on April 15, 2013, 04:03:16 PM
Strangely enough, I find my Mules fairly similar in terms of output (and not that different in tone) when split, while the pickups in my PRS Singlecut Trem literally halve in volume when split.
Title: Re: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: dingleberry on April 16, 2013, 01:56:36 AM
Strangely enough, I find my Mules fairly similar in terms of output (and not that different in tone) when split, while the pickups in my PRS Singlecut Trem literally halve in volume when split.

This is an interesting contrast to my experience, the wiring on the guitar you have your mules in is a straight-up split?  No foolins with resistors etc?  I find the tone to be obviously different when split as well as output decreasing.

So many pickups, so little time!


And money.....

Oh man I hear this lol all these great bkps make me wish I could affort more guitars lol.  My neighbour just got some aftermaths, they sound fantastic, and stupidly precise.
Title: Re: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: froglord on April 16, 2013, 08:22:10 AM
This is an interesting contrast to my experience, the wiring on the guitar you have your mules in is a straight-up split?  No foolins with resistors etc?  I find the tone to be obviously different when split as well as output decreasing.

Ah, I've had a brain spasm! I've got series, parallel and coil split options on this guitar. I was thinking of the series vs parallel options, which sound remarkably similar (same volume, with the parallel option having a tad more treble).

The coil split does indeed have less volume. But the PRS has the biggest drop in volume I've ever heard from a split humbucker.
Title: Re: One word Mule Neck review
Post by: Mr. Air on April 16, 2013, 08:49:12 AM
I got a strat that has Apaches/Stormy Monday and a 3-way mini switch for the SM. There is a volume drop when the SM is split, but it's not very drastical.