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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: FELINEGUITARS on October 15, 2013, 04:59:41 PM

Title: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 15, 2013, 04:59:41 PM
Now and then one of the guitars I get to build I make for myself rather than to sell.
Recently this has happened twice - so I get to have a double NGD

Here they are in all their glory:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/891562_580680921978996_923058225_o.jpg)

Some of you may have partially seen this coming as one of them is one of the 20th anniversary Lions, whilst the other is one of the Blackmachine B6s that we build with Doug.

Here is the 20th anniversary guitar
(we made 13 rather than 12 so I could keep one for posterity and still sell 12 to the public)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1269338_571781032868985_609940157_o.jpg)
It's loaded with Cold Sweat Pickups, and has all my favourite components which are extensively listed on the thread about the 20th anniversary Lions
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1268514_571780942868994_323381902_o.jpg)
As ever has our all access neck joint on the back
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1265702_571781616202260_808965191_o.jpg)


Here is the Blackmachine B6
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1399024_580995021947586_335052288_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1397819_580996645280757_1022214844_o.jpg)

This is a slightly quirky version of the Blackmachine B6 that I make with Doug.
Yes - Blackmachine are alive and well  - he just needed a helping hand to keep a flow of B6s going out the door

It is both a throwback to things we did together in the past and a chance to test a few things out for myself.

This project will enable me to test out the new Graph Tech Ratio Tuners and get to grips with the Scahller Hannes bridge too, which I hadn't had the opportunity to fit previously.
The tuners have a different ratio for each string in an attempt to make each turn of the knob raise the pitch by the same amount on each string.
The pickups are a Bare Knuckle Pickups Cold Sweat Set.
The colour choice is a throwback to a Pink/blue zebra Seymour Duncan Custom pickup that Doug from Blackmachine and I used to trade back and forth in the early 1990s.

In a way it ties in aspects of our ongoing collaboration on the B6 line.
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: darkbluemurder on October 15, 2013, 05:14:48 PM
Those are beautiful guitars, even though those colored pickups are not my thing at all. I think the Tygyr covers would have looked great on that.

Cheers Stephan

Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: littleredguitars2 on October 15, 2013, 05:19:11 PM
Whoa mama
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 15, 2013, 05:19:29 PM
Those are beautiful guitars, even though those colored pickups are not my thing at all. I think the Tygyr covers would have looked great on that.

Cheers Stephan

I have a spare pair of Cold Sweats in Tyger finish for just that purpose in case i fancy the change
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: darkbluemurder on October 15, 2013, 05:23:36 PM
Looks like Cold Sweats are your favorites ...
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: Kiichi on October 15, 2013, 05:36:14 PM
Saw them on FB already and man are those beautys. Love the figuring on the B6. If they play half as good as they look...
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: Telerocker on October 15, 2013, 05:46:21 PM
Two beauties! I particularly like the Lion. Looks amazing!
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 15, 2013, 05:59:01 PM
Looks like Cold Sweats are your favorites ...

Yes - Mules, Cold Sweats, Rebel Yells and Miracle Man are my most used....and Mississippi Queens

the thin bodied Lion special on the left has a mule bridge (A5) and a Cold Sweat neck whilst the 20th has a pair of Cold Sweats (although I would equally enjoy it with A4 mules)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1397924_580680741979014_1312065923_o.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/885208_580680868645668_353730763_o.jpg)
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: dave_mc on October 15, 2013, 06:38:48 PM
sweet :D
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: James C on October 15, 2013, 07:29:33 PM
I've got to say Jon, they look amazing!!

The figuring on the B6, pickup colours and the non-reverse headstock* must make it one of the most unique Blackmachines ever.

*is it still non-reverse if they come with a "reversed" headstock as standard
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: JDC on October 15, 2013, 07:32:36 PM
Any particular reason why you don't have a reverse headstock on the B6?

That's a lovely looking piece of swampash, are future B6s going to stick with the hannes? Saw the recent one's with the old bridge, much prefer the hannes myself
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 15, 2013, 07:53:09 PM
Originally B6s had the headstock this way round, but more and more got made/requested as reverse headstocks.
I do like the look of reverse headstocks, although they can have their own complications:
Reverse headstocks are more prone to open resonating strings behind the nut that vibrate in a frequency that is more easily excited by notes you'd play on the playing section of the neck - and carry on ringing after that note is played - hence the need for a hairband to dampen the string behind the nut you see on so many reverse headstocks.

Main reason though for the "normal headstock" is that I wanted to try the new ratio tuners (which seem awesome!) and each tuner is numbered and needs to be used for a specific string
Unfortunately they haven't made any sets for left handed guitars which is what you need for a right handed reverse headstock guitar.

We do have lots of these tuners in stock so yell if you want some.

Here is a shot of the parts I wanted to use for this guitar.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1294262_541738652539890_1602678467_o.jpg)
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: littleredguitars2 on October 15, 2013, 07:58:32 PM
that bridge looks really cool.
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 15, 2013, 07:59:21 PM
The last 14 have had the Hipshot bridge and it's proved to be excellent.
Before that Doug had been using the Gotoh hardtail strat or similar bridges.

We are hoping to offer the Hannes as standard - maybe from the next batch onwards.

It is one of the reasons that I used my own build to get acclimatised to installing it.

So yes - Hannes will be seen more in the future

I have completed 14 Blackmachines so far this year and 6 more to make up the 20 I promised I'd help Doug get done during this year.

Here is a sight you don't see everyday (unless you work here that is)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1012098_529420553771700_1398910237_n.jpg)
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: 38thBeatle on October 15, 2013, 09:40:55 PM
Asalways, stunning guitars Jonathan.
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: GuitarIv on October 15, 2013, 11:51:13 PM
Woah. Those are stunning, nice work Jon!

I got a bit oblivious about the whole Blackmachine hype, how does one order those guitars nowadays? Mailing Doug seemed to be useless in the past, so could you clear up a bit about the mystery of Blackmachine guitars?  :)
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: Dave Sloven on October 16, 2013, 12:06:12 AM
I dig those crazy coloured pickups.

I couldn't be happier with my own Cold Sweat set either!
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: Philly Q on October 16, 2013, 12:44:19 AM
Fine work as always! :D

Nothing could be further from "my type of guitar" than a Blackmachine (though to be fair, at least it's a hardtail), but I always admire the workmanship and the look of the swamp ash.

The new tuners sound an interesting idea, although I do wonder if it's one of those "must have" inventions that no-one was crying out for....
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: Lew on October 16, 2013, 08:58:58 AM
Love the plain top Lion :-) enjoy!
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: blue on October 16, 2013, 10:52:03 AM
Beautiful guitars.  On paper, the blue/pink humbuckers sounds like a terrible idea!  but it actually looks great.  I have a pink Maverick superstrat that I've wanted to put Cold Sweats in, and in my head it was Zebra pickups, but these may make me think again
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 16, 2013, 10:55:25 AM
Fine work as always! :D

Nothing could be further from "my type of guitar" than a Blackmachine (though to be fair, at least it's a hardtail), but I always admire the workmanship and the look of the swamp ash.

The new tuners sound an interesting idea, although I do wonder if it's one of those "must have" inventions that no-one was crying out for....

Pop in sometime Phil - you can have a try - although to be fair the neck on the B6 is fairly slim which isn't to your taste.
Can't promise that I wont leave a Lion cub out though which may tickle your fancy more.
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 16, 2013, 11:43:23 AM
Woah. Those are stunning, nice work Jon!

I got a bit oblivious about the whole Blackmachine hype, how does one order those guitars nowadays? Mailing Doug seemed to be useless in the past, so could you clear up a bit about the mystery of Blackmachine guitars?  :)

What's changed recently is that I'm handling the sales for the B6 model. so for that model I'd be your point of contact.
Having said that making any more than 20 in a year on top of my own stuff will prove to be tricky
For all other models you'd have to speak to Doug and they are pretty thin on the ground.
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: GuitarIv on October 16, 2013, 11:52:01 AM
Thanks for the clarification, if I ever feel the need to own a Blackmachine I know who I need to talk to  :P
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: Philly Q on October 16, 2013, 12:20:52 PM
Pop in sometime Phil - you can have a try - although to be fair the neck on the B6 is fairly slim which isn't to your taste.
Can't promise that I wont leave a Lion cub out though which may tickle your fancy more.

It certainly would!  :lol:  You know me, always getting ideas and never seeing them through....

I keep thinking about getting something special for my "big" birthday next year, but after spending a couple of hours actually playing this morning (!!!  :o !!!) I have to wonder if I should be bothering with this guitar lark at all.... reality check needed I think.  :?
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: JDC on October 16, 2013, 04:00:23 PM
Jonathan what's the profile like on an B6 neck? I think I read somewhere it's like an ibanez neck but the middle is wider and flatter before tapering off
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: Lew on October 16, 2013, 11:28:12 PM

I keep thinking about getting something special for my "big" birthday next year

21?
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: Philly Q on October 17, 2013, 10:22:12 AM

I keep thinking about getting something special for my "big" birthday next year

21?

You got it.
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 17, 2013, 10:53:59 AM
Jonathan what's the profile like on an B6 neck? I think I read somewhere it's like an ibanez neck but the middle is wider and flatter before tapering off

The B2 and B6 necks differ.
Your description may match the profile of the B2
The B6 is like a mix of a Jem neck and a slim taper 60s strat neck - but with a 12" fingerboard radius.
It is a more conventional neck, and easier to adapt to if coming from traditional guitars
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: witeter on October 17, 2013, 11:04:14 AM
Nice work as always Jonathan  - how are you finding the Hannes bridge, whats your verdict?
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 17, 2013, 06:15:28 PM
I rather like it - nice under the hand
You have to be very careful fitting it though as it doesn't have a great range of adjustment for intonation, so important to get it in the right place

I do worry that because the saddles can fall off if you break a string that someone will lose a saddle on a dark stage if they broke a string.
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: Philly Q on October 17, 2013, 06:37:08 PM
I do worry that because the saddles can fall off if you break a string that someone will lose a saddle on a dark stage if they broke a string.

That's a bit worrying!

I must say that although I like the precision-engineered appearance of the Hannes, it looks overly fiddly to me.  I'd much prefer the simplicity of the Hipshot bridge.
Title: Re: NGD (x2). New toys for ME!
Post by: Mr. Air on October 17, 2013, 07:36:49 PM
Really nice guitars, Jonathan. I must admit that the Blackmachine headstock is really not my cup of tea, but the lion looks super cool (they always do).