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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Toe-Knee on October 24, 2014, 07:53:06 AM

Title: Incoming NGD
Post by: Toe-Knee on October 24, 2014, 07:53:06 AM
I've decided to replace some of my cheaper guitars with nicer ones. Not that the others are bad I just fancy a change! So out is going the RGA42FM And the RG331 and this should be arriving tomorrow morning.

(http://wfahm.com/moulder/guitars/RG6Premium/RG721Premium03.jpg)

(http://wfahm.com/moulder/guitars/RG6Premium/RG721Premium09.jpg)

Ibanez RG721 CNF Premium.

I was going to order some Blackhawks to go with it as I think they would actually suit this guitar both sonically and visually but I my other RG premium has stayed stock because the pickups in it were decent so I will give them a whirl first and take it from there. Also once the RGA42 sells I will have an EMG JH set kicking about.

Oh yeah also a little about the guitar. It is basswood (surprise surprise) but with a rosewood top and a maple/walnut neck with a maple inlay for the headstock logo as well. The bright is an Ibanez Tight end R with every fully locked into place once set up.
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Philly Q on October 24, 2014, 08:48:32 AM
You know it's not really my kind of thing but it's a lovely looking guitar.  Nice timber!  :cool:

Haven't seen that bridge before, it looks very solid.
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: MrBump on October 24, 2014, 10:43:39 AM
Very tasty.  Has a Blackmachine vibe, I think.
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Telerocker on October 24, 2014, 10:59:53 AM
Indeed, it has a Blackmachine-aura.
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: AndyR on October 24, 2014, 12:27:26 PM
I'm with Philly, "not my thing really..." but WOW! That does look fab. Nice one :)
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Andrew W on October 24, 2014, 01:24:35 PM
Looks great, very handsome. If it were me I'd get nickel covered pickups and nickel hardware as I reckon it'd set the whole thing off but when I think about it, that's pretty much what I'd do any guitar....
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Mr. Air on October 24, 2014, 03:18:33 PM
That's one of the best looking Ibbys I have seen. Actually it would concider playing this myself and I don't really like Ibbys. Congrats, congrats!!!
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Brow on October 24, 2014, 03:46:33 PM
Aye, t'is a nice 1 that!
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: _tom_ on October 24, 2014, 04:01:18 PM
That's bloody lovely, nice one :) I've had GAS for the oiled mahogany hardtail GAK exclusive RG for a while now, love a natural Ibanez!
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: dave_mc on October 24, 2014, 04:19:42 PM
The premiums always scared me a bit because, although they looked pretty nice, most of them (apart from the sig models) have the cheaper tremolos, and my experience with Ibanez's cheaper trems has been, er, "avoid them"! :laugh:

That one's a hardtail though and I have to admit when I first saw it coming out it looked pretty interesting. Nice score :D

EDIT: Funnily enough, my instinct would have been to go with the natural finish one, but seeing those pics, I think that one might actually be nicer. It tones down the abalone binding a bit, I think.
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: witeter on October 25, 2014, 09:18:44 AM
Nice! i really like the look of these guitars-let us know how it plays  and I personally would be interested to hear how the Wizard neck compares to the Wizard II neck of the RGA42.
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Kiichi on October 25, 2014, 10:47:23 AM
Cool stuff. Really digging the natural look for modern sounding axes. Congrats!
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Toe-Knee on October 25, 2014, 02:01:30 PM
The premiums always scared me a bit because, although they looked pretty nice, most of them (apart from the sig models) have the cheaper tremolos, and my experience with Ibanez's cheaper trems has been, er, "avoid them"! :laugh:

That one's a hardtail though and I have to admit when I first saw it coming out it looked pretty interesting. Nice score :D

EDIT: Funnily enough, my instinct would have been to go with the natural finish one, but seeing those pics, I think that one might actually be nicer. It tones down the abalone binding a bit, I think.

My other premium has the edge zero II with zps and it's the second most stable bridge that i've used after the Kahler 2700 on my strat. Some did have edge III's though and they are very hit and miss bridges.

Also I agree about the abalone. Usually I refuse to even consider guitars with it on. This one it doesn't seem as garish as usual. It's definitely a long way off schecter/esp abalone!

Now back onto the topic. Parcelfarce still haven't arrived!
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Philly Q on October 25, 2014, 02:32:26 PM
Now back onto the topic. Parcelfarce still haven't arrived!

Did you pay £12 for Saturday delivery?
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Toe-Knee on October 25, 2014, 02:40:16 PM
Now back onto the topic. Parcelfarce still haven't arrived!

Did you pay £12 for Saturday delivery?

I paid GAK £25!

Just got off the phone with them as the tracking says it's still at the Gatwick depot. In the reps own words 'it's been delayed we can't say more at this time so it should be with you on Monday'

Now GAK aren't answering the phones. Oh joy.
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Philly Q on October 25, 2014, 03:54:08 PM
Hmmm, I think they owe you a shipping refund and some free strings or something.
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: dave_mc on October 25, 2014, 07:25:27 PM
My other premium has the edge zero II with zps and it's the second most stable bridge that i've used after the Kahler 2700 on my strat. Some did have edge III's though and they are very hit and miss bridges.

Also I agree about the abalone. Usually I refuse to even consider guitars with it on. This one it doesn't seem as garish as usual. It's definitely a long way off schecter/esp abalone!

Now back onto the topic. Parcelfarce still haven't arrived!

Thanks. I should've added that my experience with the Ibanez bridges is with the older ones- I still operate a "once bitten twice shy" approach, though :laugh:

Yeah I'm not generally too fond of abalone either. It's ok for inlays but I'm not usually that fussed for binding. It looks a fair bit nicer on yours, though.

That sucks about PF, especially if you paid extra for Saturday delivery...
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Toe-Knee on October 27, 2014, 12:36:12 PM
Round 2! At least this time it's out for delivery. I still can't get through to GAK customer service so i've left a couple of messages.
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Toe-Knee on October 27, 2014, 05:03:40 PM
It's here! The fretboard isn't as interesting as the guy whos photo I borrowed from SS.org but the guitar is lovely. The bridge pickup most likely needs to go though. Gain/mids/treble are all great but the low end is excessive!

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9807181/Guitars/RG721RW-CNF/Body%20Shot.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9807181/Guitars/RG721RW-CNF/Body%20Shot%202.jpg)

I just noticed that the headstock logo is a maple inlay. A nice touch!
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9807181/Guitars/RG721RW-CNF/Headstock%20Maple%20Inlay.jpg)
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: JacksonRR on October 27, 2014, 06:46:21 PM
That is a pretty one! How does it play?
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Toe-Knee on October 27, 2014, 06:51:12 PM
That is a pretty one! How does it play?

If you've ever played an Ibanez Premium you'll feel comfortable with it.

The neck profile is a little rounder than my RG950 but feelwise it's very similar. It's nice and light (not as light as my RG950)  which is a bonus and very resonant.  Now I just have to figure out if the overbearing lows are the pickup or the rosewood top as i've never had rosewood on a guitar before other than the fretboard so I aren't sure what to expect!

The bridge is also extremely solid with everything locked down and it's a breeze to setup and feels really nice under my palm being so low profile.

Also welcome back! How have you been? Speaking of rosewood didn't you make a rosewood RR? If so maybe you could enlighten me on the tonal qualities of it :D
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: JacksonRR on October 27, 2014, 08:55:10 PM
Well, it sounds like it's a treasure. :)

Yeah, that's bridge looked really solid, almost like a VS-100 series trem saddle set on it. Really like the look of it. Glad to hear that design is palm comfy, been thinking of grabbing a set for a new thin-bodied RG build.

The Wenge RR is actually.... one output jack shy of being completed... unfortunately or fortunately depending on how you look at it. When life got twisty, I put it down and had something of a mental block about it until recently. Was building it up during stressful times, so at this point it's more an exercise in closing chapters than a NGD. Missed by a hair on the drilling for the wiring, so have put a new jackplate on order. But.. (and not to thread jack) I think it's turned out well. Took it down to Blackmachine thickness and mutilated a Kahler cam unit into it... Can't remember how the system works here so I'm hoping this remains a link and not a photo. Let's add some asterisks to ignore just to be safe. **http://s1029.photobucket.com/user/flyinryan1/media/IMG_0200.jpg.html**
Acoustically, it's as nice as I'd have hoped. Really loud actually, lot of midrange action there. That MM should be a happy little guy in there. I've only played one rosewood necked instrument, but I think wenge is a bit sharper in tone, but not a far cry. Unplugged review on that, so... grain of salt. Perhaps you remember that passive high-pass control we had discussed a few years ago? A Het-set would look sharp on it though....
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Toe-Knee on October 27, 2014, 09:16:20 PM
Ahh yes wenge.

That guitar is looking really nice. I approve of the Kahler! Is it one of the newer models or a NOS one?

I do remember that high pass conversation. I've tried implementing it a few times but I can never quite get the frequencies right. It's always a bit too high or low. I will have to tinker with it some more.

I have considered moving my hetset into this as the guitar it's in currently will be up for sale shortly but I think I want to keep this one passive especially as I love the switching setup it has with the parrallel neck in position 4.

Feel free to shoot me an email if you still have my address.
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: JacksonRR on October 27, 2014, 09:42:32 PM
With the back end chopped off, it's whatever model is cooler. Just kidding, it's a newer one. The HM model with the trem bar that doesn't look like a coathanger with a little jimmy hat on it. Yes, still have your e-mail and will do. Really nice to pop in and see a lot of the regulars still being regular. I know you've always had a hard on for Ibbys so it's also good to see you wielding a primo model.
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Alex on October 27, 2014, 09:58:44 PM
From my experience with Parcelforce it's probably their fault more than GAK...
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Toe-Knee on October 28, 2014, 09:42:43 AM
From my experience with Parcelforce it's probably their fault more than GAK...

Oh yeah most definitely. Gak stuck to their side of the agreement and handed it over in plenty of time.
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: dave_mc on October 28, 2014, 01:22:05 PM
Very nice :D I wonder if the neck is slightly more based on the J-customs? The few I tried had slightly rounder neck profiles than the wizard-style necks, IIRC, and the rest of the premium range looks a wee bit like it took the J-customs as inspiration...

Has it had the pickups changed in it? They don't really look like the stock ones, but I could be wrong. EDIT: d'oh, my mistake, it just says "premium" on the pickup plastic cover :laugh:

Also I was going to say I didn't realise it came with a hard case, but looking more closely at the pics the handle seems to be soft so maybe it's just a more solid type of soft case?
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Toe-Knee on October 28, 2014, 01:35:16 PM
Very nice :D I wonder if the neck is slightly more based on the J-customs? The few I tried had slightly rounder neck profiles than the wizard-style necks, IIRC, and the rest of the premium range looks a wee bit like it took the J-customs as inspiration...

Has it had the pickups changed in it? They don't really look like the stock ones, but I could be wrong. EDIT: d'oh, my mistake, it just says "premium" on the pickup plastic cover :laugh:

Also I was going to say I didn't realise it came with a hard case, but looking more closely at the pics the handle seems to be soft so maybe it's just a more solid type of soft case?

yeah its a semi hard one. Plenty sturdy all of the premium line come with as well as a multi tool and change of strings. My other premium came with a different tool though but still a nice one without the socket wrench.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9807181/Guitars/RG721RW-CNF/Multi%20tool%20RG721.jpg)

The staff that make the premium line are ex Japan staff so prestige/J Custom etc.
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Plenum n Heather on October 28, 2014, 04:10:28 PM
Very nice looking guitar!
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: witeter on October 28, 2014, 06:14:19 PM
Nice! congrats and glad it finally arrived-how does the neck compare to the one on the RGA42?
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: Toe-Knee on October 28, 2014, 07:40:29 PM
Nice! congrats and glad it finally arrived-how does the neck compare to the one on the RGA42?

It's a bit slimmer and not quite as wide but its a small margin on the width. The fretwork is a lot better without a single uneven spot or sharp end. It's also got a satin finish on the back too which makes playing a bit nicer. The guitar itself is a lot lighter too.
Title: Re: Incoming NGD
Post by: dave_mc on October 29, 2014, 05:15:39 PM
Very nice :D I wonder if the neck is slightly more based on the J-customs? The few I tried had slightly rounder neck profiles than the wizard-style necks, IIRC, and the rest of the premium range looks a wee bit like it took the J-customs as inspiration...

Has it had the pickups changed in it? They don't really look like the stock ones, but I could be wrong. EDIT: d'oh, my mistake, it just says "premium" on the pickup plastic cover :laugh:

Also I was going to say I didn't realise it came with a hard case, but looking more closely at the pics the handle seems to be soft so maybe it's just a more solid type of soft case?

yeah its a semi hard one. Plenty sturdy all of the premium line come with as well as a multi tool and change of strings. My other premium came with a different tool though but still a nice one without the socket wrench.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9807181/Guitars/RG721RW-CNF/Multi%20tool%20RG721.jpg)

The staff that make the premium line are ex Japan staff so prestige/J Custom etc.

Thanks

I didn't know that about the staff, that's interesting.