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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: AnnunakiMassacr on February 23, 2015, 02:09:56 PM

Title: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: AnnunakiMassacr on February 23, 2015, 02:09:56 PM
Well I'm happy to say I've just placed the order for 3 new pickups :)

To start off, I've just ordered the Holy Diver/Emerald combo for my ESP Eclipse Full Thickness.

Secondly, I've order a Black Dog to replace the Riff Raff bridge in my other Eclipse Full Thickness for the Black Dog/Mule combo :)

Looking forward to it :P
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: Lucas on February 23, 2015, 02:32:48 PM
congratz! I`m really curious about Black Dog, for some reason that pickup grabs my attention a lot, but there`s not much good audio samples on the internet.

can`t wait for your BD review!
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: Telerocker on February 23, 2015, 05:25:30 PM
Fine choice. Yeah the BD could possibly use a bit more love. Let us know how it performs.
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: Lucas on February 23, 2015, 05:37:10 PM
Fine choice. Yeah the BD could possibly use a bit more love. Let us know how it performs.
exactly, I went through loads of youtube videos and there`s only couple of good ones with BD but still for some reason I cannot built the whole picture when it comes to BD. I suppose that pickup still is kind of mystery for me.
some people say that it`s really bright and really unbalanced while some state that it has some huge balls and deliver great rock/metal tones. Hmmm... anyway,  Annunaki lets us know how it sounds and if possible record some demos  :evil:
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: Kiichi on February 23, 2015, 06:45:19 PM
I know that its bright, mid heavy voicing is supposed to absolutly slay in baritone guitars. Keeps up with the low tuning and handles the extended top and bottom end, filling out the mids, while staying tight. That allows it to deliver stunning metal tones with loads of character in those, while of course still being able to pull of all manner of low gain sounds. At least thatīs what I heard over the years.
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: Slartibartfarst42 on February 23, 2015, 07:32:52 PM
The EQ chart doesn't suggest it's massively bright and like others, I've always felt that the Black Dog would appeal to me so I too would love to read a detailed review.
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: Lucas on February 23, 2015, 07:52:20 PM
The EQ chart doesn't suggest it's massively bright and like others, I've always felt that the Black Dog would appeal to me so I too would love to read a detailed review.
When I was talking to Ben from BKP at some point, he emailed me saying that BD is even brighter than RY.

on the other hand, I`m just wondering how BD would perform in semi hollows or hollow bodied guitars. Feedback shouldn`t be an issue here as BD is lower output pup.
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: ericsabbath on February 23, 2015, 07:53:30 PM
I wouldn't call it bright
it's VERY middy and dense sounding, so it has the "in-your-face" effect
top end is quite round
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: Alex on February 23, 2015, 08:58:34 PM
Uhm, "bright" might be a very subjective label and perceptions might differ. I for my part definitely wouldn't call the BD a "bright" pickup. It has a clear top end, but it is a relatively balanced pickup with a strong amount of lower mids. I would have thought that the BKP EQ chart depicts that as well.
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: Alex on February 23, 2015, 08:59:19 PM
Well I'm happy to say I've just placed the order for 3 new pickups :)

To start off, I've just ordered the Holy Diver/Emerald combo for my ESP Eclipse Full Thickness.

Secondly, I've order a Black Dog to replace the Riff Raff bridge in my other Eclipse Full Thickness for the Black Dog/Mule combo :)

Looking forward to it :P

I'm loving the BD in my Eclipse. Seriously huge and meaty tone.
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: Lucas on February 24, 2015, 10:17:40 AM
Well I'm happy to say I've just placed the order for 3 new pickups :)

To start off, I've just ordered the Holy Diver/Emerald combo for my ESP Eclipse Full Thickness.

Secondly, I've order a Black Dog to replace the Riff Raff bridge in my other Eclipse Full Thickness for the Black Dog/Mule combo :)

Looking forward to it :P


I'm loving the BD in my Eclipse. Seriously huge and meaty tone.

as it seems to be a little brother of Holydiver, does BD shines on leads as well? or it`s not as good lead pickup as HD? I`m talking about bridge version.
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: AnnunakiMassacr on February 24, 2015, 03:38:48 PM
I'm actually really looking forward to them. I kind of wanted a nice high gain setup in one eclipse. Then a vintage version of that setup in another guitar. I had the Riff Raff, but I just found it not having enough bottom end.

My reasoning for the Holy Diver was that I have the Rebel Yells, and whilst I love the harmonic qualities, and feel of the pickups, I just wanted something similar but fatter. I just found it never had that bottom end chug...well it did, but was a little to compact.
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: Slartibartfarst42 on February 24, 2015, 07:01:23 PM
I'm loving the BD in my Eclipse. Seriously huge and meaty tone.

Which is exactly the sort of description that wouldn't immediately make me think it was a particularly bright pickup.
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: AnnunakiMassacr on February 24, 2015, 08:23:59 PM
I'm loving the BD in my Eclipse. Seriously huge and meaty tone.

Which is exactly the sort of description that wouldn't immediately make me think it was a particularly bright pickup.

Yeah I keep hearing from different sources that it's bright, then from other sources that it's thick. Maybe it's just the PAFiness woody qualities that make you hear the snap or something? I remember reading that it's good for Satriani style music, too. Also another review saying it has that sort of double/triple tracked sound from it, kind of like Trivium. That sold it for me haha.
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: Alex on February 24, 2015, 08:39:04 PM
This is what the website says:.
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An aggressive, throaty humbucker with deep bottom-end, muscular mids, smooth highs and more output than a vintage PAF.
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: Lucas on February 24, 2015, 11:52:54 PM
Also another review saying it has that sort of double/triple tracked sound from it, kind of like Trivium. That sold it for me haha.
Trivium? Never heard that kind of opinion. Interesting.

Anyway, I`m really looking forward to read your review as well as can you make a detailed comparison between HD and BD once you`ll get them installed? cheers!
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: Archlute on February 27, 2015, 06:29:28 AM
Well I'm happy to say I've just placed the order for 3 new pickups :)

To start off, I've just ordered the Holy Diver/Emerald combo for my ESP Eclipse Full Thickness.

Secondly, I've order a Black Dog to replace the Riff Raff bridge in my other Eclipse Full Thickness for the Black Dog/Mule combo :)

Looking forward to it :P

Good choice, man.  That combo is solid.  I've thought about trying a VHII in the neck in place of the Emerald, but the latter is sweet enough each time I play it live that I've not wanted to mess it up, lol. 

The Holy Diver kicks total ass, and the tonal difference between the two of them makes for an extremely diverse ax.
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: ericsabbath on February 27, 2015, 05:26:02 PM
Also another review saying it has that sort of double/triple tracked sound from it, kind of like Trivium. That sold it for me haha.
Trivium? Never heard that kind of opinion. Interesting.

Anyway, I`m really looking forward to read your review as well as can you make a detailed comparison between HD and BD once you`ll get them installed? cheers!

definitely can do that with a booster
the dog has a very pronounced "half c--ked wah" midrange response and that helps with the heavy fast riffs/shredding approach Trivium used to do
would work great for Sylosis too
in my experience from, the dog had a smoother top and more articulate mids, while the diver was slightly treblier, but more compressed in the mids
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: AnnunakiMassacr on February 27, 2015, 05:33:13 PM
Would you say it's sort of like the Schenker tone, when you say the half c--ked wah?
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: Lucas on February 27, 2015, 09:53:19 PM
Eric Hellstyle, so you have to have a booster to play heavier stuff with Black Dog?

 I mean things like Metallica, Tool, Killswitch Engaged ect? It wouldn`t be the first pickup for that kind of music, I know, but assuming that I would like to play heavier stuff, fast staccato riffing, some shred ect. Would BD without booster cope with it and would it be tight enough?

cheers,
Title: Re: Just ordered 3 new pickups :)
Post by: Alex on March 01, 2015, 12:34:02 PM
Eric Hellstyle, so you have to have a booster to play heavier stuff with Black Dog?

 I mean things like Metallica, Tool, Killswitch Engaged ect? It wouldn`t be the first pickup for that kind of music, I know, but assuming that I would like to play heavier stuff, fast staccato riffing, some shred ect. Would BD without booster cope with it and would it be tight enough?

cheers,

It would depend on the guitar and the amp and how generous these are with the low end. A booster is a great addition to the BD though for metal.