Some of those were crushing as fvck! Especially the first couple, you can tell that the tone, once out in the open will slice through small infants and the elderly :twisted: I know you wish you had better recording gear, and so do i, i don't feel like the the alnico or Pig-90 came through in their natural brutality. I really haven't heard any of the Pig-90 so naturally i would love a clearer sampling - anybody else got one? The Ceramic sounded the best, or at least the most crushing :twisted: