Author Topic: BK Humbuckers specially for solid state amps? (Read 7123 times)

ericsabbath · « **Reply #30 on:** June 21, 2008, 06:24:26 PM »

Quote from: Rich78

Will. Yeah he dialed it in that way. Early stuff he scooped most or all of the mids. Later stuff with Damageplan he had more mids and lower tunings...
I think he boosted the treble and bass with an equalizer too...

actually he used the blue mxr EQ as a mid booster before the amp
he used a parametric eq as a boost device before the amp too

the amps settings weren't that scooped
he used somethink like treble 4, mid 3.5, bass 9
solid state amps already sound scooped, so it's not necessary to rolloff the mids

i think you would love the peavey rockmaster preamp
it's a tube preamp, but sounds sooo good for pantera
it costs around US$200 on ebay and forums
another option is theRandall RGP1000 preamp, that costs around 120-160 dollars
it has the same exact preamp of his old amps (that sound very different from the randalls made on this decade)

Rich78 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 22, 2008, 02:56:25 PM »

Thanks Eric Hellstyle.

So, he boosted the mids on the equalizer before he went down to 3.5 on the amp?

Strange. But cool. Im gonna try that. I can buy a cheap Behringer equalizer...

I have no money so I cant buy anything.

But thanks fore the advise. Taken on board.

Rich.

kellar · « **Reply #32 on:** June 22, 2008, 03:55:49 PM »

Quote from: ilyti

Quote from: ACK!
That's interesting, I 've never really heard anybody slagging Dime's tone.

You haven't been looking hard enough. I've slagged Dimes tone in the past, I am slagging it now (Dime had horrible tone), and I will slag it again. Anyone who's willing to hear my opinion about his songwriting and playing is welcome too, but that's not for the faint of heart.

Certainly strong words for a man that was not just an outstanding guitar player, but an avid musician and tremendous human being. Fortunately, you are only one negative opinion amidst a billion guitar players that idolized the man. Horrible tone, songwriting, and playing :?: Sorry man, I respect your opinion but I think you are dead wrong.

Rich78 · « **Reply #33 on:** June 22, 2008, 04:01:40 PM »

Well said kellar. Hear Hear!

I was biting my tongue.

kellar · « **Reply #34 on:** June 22, 2008, 04:03:30 PM »

jpmaxxy · « **Reply #35 on:** June 22, 2008, 05:22:17 PM »

I'd like to hear your thoughts on his playing as songwriting and tone are based on opinion. I only really got into Cowboys and Vulgar and the odd track from other ones but I thought he had great style and creativity.

ACK! · « **Reply #36 on:** June 22, 2008, 05:45:54 PM »

Quote from: ilyti

Quote from: ACK!
That's interesting, I 've never really heard anybody slagging Dime's tone.

You haven't been looking hard enough. I've slagged Dimes tone in the past, I am slagging it now (Dime had horrible tone), and I will slag it again. Anyone who's willing to hear my opinion about his songwriting and playing is welcome too, but that's not for the faint of heart.

With all due respect, my heart is far from faint, but I'd still prefer if you'd keep it to yourself. Thank you and have a nive day. :D

kellar · « **Reply #37 on:** June 22, 2008, 06:48:24 PM »

Dimebag was an innovator. He came along at a time when metal was in dire straits. Pantera re-invented the metal scene. It was just pure American heavy metal. They were the most important metal band of the 90's.
I don't see the argument in Dimebag's inability to play the guitar. I mean, the man was EASILY one of the best heavy metal guitarists of all time. Not just his playing, but his influence on the music scene. Not one of his peers would disagree with that.
My favorite Pantera album is by far Far Beyond Driven. Just hard-driving metal, but great hooks. That album alone would be an all-time greatest hits album for most bands. Cowboys From Hell and Vulgar Display of Power were also great albums. I wasn't a particularly big fan of the later stuff. They seemed to sacrifice writing great songs to make metal albums.

On the subject of tone, it is relative and a highly argumentative subject. Additionally, I don't normally feel like it is a subject worthy of recognition in the metal world (sorry metal guys). I am not looking for an argument there, it is just that heavy metal is not where I go to look for great guitar tones.

Anyway, Dimebag was simply heavy metal, and if it wasn't the best tone in the world than that probably made it more metal.
Frankly, to say that Dimebag wasn't a good guitar player is simply ridiculous. A comment like that would lead me to ask if the individual has EVER listened to a Pantera album. If so, listen again.

ilÿti · « **Reply #38 on:** June 22, 2008, 10:36:58 PM »

Jeez, sorry for the fuss. All I meant to say was it's not everyone who idolizes everything about Dime. I wont derail this any further so I'll refrain from picking Keller's argument apart. If you care to discuss this any further, please do so via PMs, but personally I don't see the point. I'm not gonna change your opinion and you're not gonna change mine and that's that.

(and yes I have listened to Pantera, I used to like them. With all due respect, "If you don't like them you haven't listened hard enough" is not a valid point. If so we'd all love the music that pop radio stations play 24/7)