Author Topic: Is this wiring correct?(updated, hopefully correct, diagram) (Read 11331 times)

CJ · « **on:** October 23, 2007, 10:26:43 PM »

I'd like to try to re-wire my flying v, but i've never done wiring before. to start, i'd like to practice on my cheap squire guitar, but i'm not sure what i can do with it to practice... are there any different ways i can wire a strat, or should i just unsolder and resolder it? any tips for soldering, or how to do it in the first place?

CJ · « **Reply #1 on:** October 23, 2007, 11:29:10 PM »

here is how my V's wiring currently is. please someone let me know what the hell all of this means, because i don't. is it wired correctly? can it stay like this? should i fix it?
oh, supposedly the guitar has two volume and one tone pot, though i'm not sure which is which, they all appear to look the same.

http://static.zoovy.com/img/guitarelectronics/-/wdu_hh3t21_01

shobet · « **Reply #2 on:** October 24, 2007, 12:46:46 AM »

Looking at your diagram, I have come to the conclusion that I have definitely had way too much vin rouge tonight.

Oh and the little orange circle is a capacitor.

If I was you I would read up a bit about wiring and electrickery before you go and give yourself a nasty shock. HoHoHo can you see what I did there!

There are plenty of sites on that there interweb thingy dealing with guitar wiring and plenty of advice on soldering components. I'm twelvetetwo and some of my wiring still turns out shite.

If you are unsure about a guitars wiring and are not competent in wielding a multi-meter or not sure which end of a soldering iron to hold, I would strongly urge you to take the guitar to a professional to have it looked at. Take them a cake and ask them about it (the guitar, not the cake silly), they'll only be too glad to give you advice.

Your diagram doesn't show if the lugs of the volume pots are soldered to the cases, I'm assuming they are.

CJ · « **Reply #3 on:** October 24, 2007, 01:35:54 AM »

Quote from: shobet

Looking at your diagram, I have come to the conclusion that I have definitely had way too much vin rouge tonight.

Oh and the little orange circle is a capacitor.

If I was you I would read up a bit about wiring and electrickery before you go and give yourself a nasty shock. HoHoHo can you see what I did there!

There are plenty of sites on that there interweb thingy dealing with guitar wiring and plenty of advice on soldering components. I'm twelvetetwo and some of my wiring still turns out shitee.

If you are unsure about a guitars wiring and are not competent in wielding a multi-meter or not sure which end of a soldering iron to hold, I would strongly urge you to take the guitar to a professional to have it looked at. Take them a cake and ask them about it (the guitar, not the cake silly), they'll only be too glad to give you advice.

Your diagram doesn't show if the lugs of the volume pots are soldered to the cases, I'm assuming they are.

hey i thought the orange thing was a capacitor, but i figured i'd look even more stupid if i was wrong and called it by the wrong name.

the only guy around here who claims to do repair work looked at my wiring (when i was getting my pickup put in) and said "well, i can put in the new pickup wired the same as the old one is, but if you wanted me to wire this thing correctly, i'd have not much of a clue what to do". so you know i'm not going back to him.

as for a soldering iron, you hold the metal end, and melt the plastic to the wire, right? haha, just kidding. i've looked at instructional things and my dad can help me out a bit with the soldering.

as for the lugs of the volume soldered to the something of the other, explain what you mean in terms of i have no clue what you're talking about, and i'll take a look seeing as my guitars still open.

what i need to know is, 1. is my guitar technically wired wrong 2. will i gain anything by rewiring it 3. tips on unsoldering 4. tips on soldering that i might not know, or obvious important ones

EDIT: in possible regard to your question, i took a look at my wiring. The top and bottom most pots have the open tab (fairly certain these are lugs) bent up and soldered to the pot (or i guess i'm just seeing the casing of the pot). so i will conclude that, yes, the lugs of the volume pots are soldered to their casings.

So, does this mean that the top and bottom (in respect to my diagram, the two farthest left) are my volume pots, and the one on the right is my tone?

CJ · « **Reply #4 on:** October 24, 2007, 11:31:50 PM »

surely i could get some response with all the experts on here?

HTH AMPS · « **Reply #5 on:** October 25, 2007, 01:04:56 AM »

why do you want to rewire it? - is the wiring faulty at present?

:twisted:

blue · « **Reply #6 on:** October 25, 2007, 01:19:58 AM »

do the volume knobs change the volume, the tone knobs change the tone, and the selector switch change the pickups? then it's wired right!

didn't mean to sound condescending, sorry! i'm guessing that it works fine, but you'd like to know what other tricks you can perform with the wiring, like coil taps, in/out of phase? if so, and you can say what you're after, i'm sure someone can put up a diagram, or point you to a site with ones on it. i know there are a few, in fact here's one i found earlier!!

http://www.guitarelectronics.com/category/wiringresources/

the information in there should give you some idea of what's possible with your setup.

oh, and this is a typical wiring diagram for your V.

http://www.guitarelectronics.com/product/WDUHH3T2101

CJ · « **Reply #7 on:** October 25, 2007, 01:25:02 AM »

actually no, its wired quite weird. the knobs kind of jump around depending on what position i'm in. say the knob farthest to the right is my volume knob when in bridge position, it then does nothing when in neck position. all the knobs appear to do different things, or lack there of, depending on what position i'm in. i was also wondering if this is possibly sucking out any tone.

again, looking at another diagram, mine isn't anywhere as close, and is twice as complicated. i'm wondering if it could be sucking output or tone, or if theres sound coming out, it doesn't matter.

blue · « **Reply #8 on:** October 25, 2007, 01:31:46 AM »

that's normal, there are seperate volumes for each pickup, then the one tone control for both.

CJ · « **Reply #9 on:** October 25, 2007, 01:37:20 AM »

you know, i got so worried because my wiring looks so different from the correct diagram, but the more i study it and understand what everything means, maybe it is correct, even thought more complicated than it has to be... one question, does soldering something to the casing of a pot just ground it, serving no real function?

to be sure, rather than more suggestions, if somebody could just study my diagram and compare it to the one i uploaded into the first post, and let me know what you think... thanks.

also, what does out of phase do? i think its when one pickup is just housed backwards, not wired differently, correct? one the pickups, theres on coil with flat pole pieces, on one coil with ones that look like screws. which way should the screw side be facing on each?

Will · « **Reply #10 on:** October 25, 2007, 10:33:03 AM »

Can be electrically or magnetically out of phase, the magnet facing the wrong way, or wired the wrong way round methinks.

The pot with all the earths coming from the pickups looks like the bridge.

Surely you have fiddled with your LP and found all the combinations with Volumes at different levels? The advantage of LPs would be having two tones to play with as well

FELINEGUITARS · « **Reply #11 on:** October 25, 2007, 10:46:25 AM »

This thread seems to be a continuation of a previous one
Here is a link to the old thread for continuity purposes

http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7837&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60

CJ · « **Reply #12 on:** October 25, 2007, 09:21:35 PM »

hmm.. forgot about that thread. thanks for bringing that up.

Philly Q · « **Reply #13 on:** October 25, 2007, 10:33:10 PM »

Looking at your diagram, the pot at top left is your bridge pickup volume, the one at bottom left is the neck volume. That's the opposite of the normal layout, but other than that it looks like they're wired correctly.

The pot on the right is the tone. It looks like there may be something funny about the wiring there - I'd expect the centre lug of the switch to be connected to the bottom lug (as it is in the pic) of the tone control, then from there to the jack. Maybe that is what's happening - is the southern-most lug on the switch (in the diagram) actually two lugs in the middle of the switch, bent together and soldered?

CJ · « **Reply #14 on:** October 26, 2007, 12:02:07 AM »

on the switch, there are 3 arms or whatever (lugs?) in a row, and then that one on my diagram thats sticking out the side is actually in the middle below the other three. i'm a little confused at what else you're asking. i'd also like to point out that on another forum i received advice saying that which of the lugs a wire is soldered to makes a difference. For example, my neck pickup is grounded out on the bridge vol pot, and then soldered to the left lug of the bridge pot (should be to the neck..?) and the diagram shows it should go to the middle lug.