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AH^DK

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« on: October 30, 2007, 12:14:06 PM »
Hey,

As I am getting my new Les Paul Standard soon, I want a new amp as well with it.

I currently have JCM2000 DSL 100watt head with a Marshall 1982B 4x12" with 100watt celestion speakers in it, giving a total of 400watt speaker power.


I like my JCM2000 alot, but I cant get that really warm metal crunch out of it, that I want.

The kinda sound I am looking for is like the one on records like Dio - Holy Diver and especially Thin Lizzy - Thunder And Lightning.

At 2:12 in this video, you can really hear the kind of sound I want.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q6E5Il_VNEs the classic sound I want.

Also I have allways liked Sykes sound on Whitesnakes 1987 record.

In short, a real 80s heavy metal sound that thick, bright and aggressive in the mids.

I was thinking of a 1959 reissue, 1987X reissue or a JCM800 2203 reissue.

I cant get splawn etc in Denmark unfortunately, plus I would allways prefer "real" Marshalls.

Anyways, what amp am I looking for?

I will put pedals in front of it to push it :)

Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2007, 12:21:32 PM »
Sounds to me like you need a JCM800!
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2007, 12:28:18 PM »
I know you can't get a Splawn but that would nail it!  I can get the tone on my Silver Jubilee with the Twilight Drive into it and I have heard Tim get it from my MiniMat into an Ear Candy Sovereign!!  I think possibly the Kerry King Marshall would get you it.  Since you are in Europe, another amp that I have heard TwilightOdyssey play and get  that tone is the Diezel VH4 (I think that is the model, TO would be able to confirm).
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2007, 12:35:10 PM »
If you cant afford much, Laney GH are really nice amps for a british voiced tone. See my sig for loads of clips, mostly done with the GH and an SM57 straight into the soundcard. Not quite as upper middy or agressive as a Marshall, but that may be due to me using 2xG12H speakers, maybe with a V30 it'd have a bit more roar to it. My mates got a DSL50 and the GH50L eats it for breakfast :D

This clip probably has the closest sound to what you're trying to get http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=493678&songID=5417089
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2007, 12:44:42 PM »
sounds like a job for a jcm800 to me. i can get exactly that kind of sound out of mine.
what pedals are you using?

p.s. don't buy a gibson :P
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2007, 01:44:57 PM »
I use this:
Charvel 375 superstrat with Duncan Fullshred.
Fender Strat HWY1 with Duncan APS-1 singles in neck/middle and Duncan JB in bridge.

Boss DS-1.
MXR Distortion+
Boss SD-1
MXR Distortion III
Rocktron Tsunami Chorus
Morley Wah.

So I have alot of distortions to choose between.

One crucial tone I forgot to mention is the mid 80s tone that Gary Moore had. All that aggressiveness, and warmth and thickness is insane.

My Les Paul will be a custom or standard, I havent choosed yet. Probably with a set of BN Cold Sweats or Holy Divers.

I might have a deal, with a dude who will trade his 1989 JCM800 2203 for my DSL100 head. Should I jump this deal?
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2007, 01:59:21 PM »
Cameron modded Marshall

Splawn Quickrod (order direct)

Vintage Modern

Orange Tiny Terror  :twisted:

Bogner XTC Classic (outch, expensive)

VHT Classic

Wizard Amps

Fargen

etc

etc

Many different mothers do have pretty daughters  :roll:
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2007, 02:05:28 PM »
I know, but half of those cost an arm and a leg here.

I didnt know the Vintage Modern would be good for this kinda thing?
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2007, 02:11:27 PM »
JCM800.

And $%&# Gibson.
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2007, 02:41:14 PM »
Quote from: AH^DK
I might have a deal, with a dude who will trade his 1989 JCM800 2203 for my DSL100 head. Should I jump this deal?


Your answer to this question is yes  ;)
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2007, 06:53:10 PM »
I called on the 2203. We made a deal, and on the 30th of November, I will pick it up. I got some info..

Marshall JCM800 2203, made in 1988. Preamp re-tubed in April.

Traded my 4month old JCM2000 DSL 100 for it.

So... This shall get me plenty a 80s metal sound  :twisted:
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2007, 07:28:44 PM »
Make sure it isnt modded, it will run up the tab if you want to 'unmod' it. Im not the biggest fan of the 2203, but you will definately nail that tone. Probably with eq set to neutral and gain just over 7 youll be back in the '80 rockin' the hell out of that rig.

Still the jcm800 you are getting should be in damn good shape for that trade. Ask for the service bill too, some people say anything for a couple of bucks.

If al is good, congrats on a fine piece of gear!
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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2007, 07:42:26 PM »
THe thing is, he wants DSL 100 really bad. I saw him on the forum that I am on, and even before he wanted to sell this amp, he talked about JCM2000s like mad.

The only flaw is a scratchy volume pot. He says it makes the volume abit flakey though... Is this just the pot?

It is not modded or anything, completely stock.
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2007, 09:00:36 PM »
Ask him to have the pot replaced by a pro

I think a DSL100 new price is not so cheap that it should be swapped against a scratchy pots head.
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2007, 09:10:59 PM »
Quote from: AH^DK
I use this:
Charvel 375 superstrat with Duncan Fullshred.
Fender Strat HWY1 with Duncan APS-1 singles in neck/middle and Duncan JB in bridge.

Boss DS-1.
MXR Distortion+
Boss SD-1
MXR Distortion III
Rocktron Tsunami Chorus
Morley Wah.

So I have alot of distortions to choose between.

One crucial tone I forgot to mention is the mid 80s tone that Gary Moore had. All that aggressiveness, and warmth and thickness is insane.

My Les Paul will be a custom or standard, I havent choosed yet. Probably with a set of BN Cold Sweats or Holy Divers.

I might have a deal, with a dude who will trade his 1989 JCM800 2203 for my DSL100 head. Should I jump this deal?


I get a nice warm sounds from my DSL with my Gibson SG and MXR Distortion+ like this -

MXR Distortion+ in the effects loop, Output about 2 o'clock, Distortion about 10/11.

Then I always have the "Deep" switch on, Presence around 4 (no longer clock like, the actual numbers) Treble 9, Mid 6, Bass 6/7. Gain full up on the Ultra Gain channel.

Sounds suuhweet  :D
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