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TwilightOdyssey

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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2005, 06:35:10 PM »
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Ben as a New Yorker how do you get that wah wah clean on Shaft?

You use an evelope filter instead of a wah.  PDT_009

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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2005, 07:25:18 PM »
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One problem is always volume.  To get a great rhythm sound I think you have to be loud.  I was thinking of trying one of the closed box speaker designs.  Years ago we used to put think foam over the cabinets, with a small hole cut for the mic.  I haven't tried this in a long time, perhaps I should give it a go again.



Those Koch 4x12 are closed backed with Jenson, Koch branded speakers. Or there's those Basson ones in the States.

http://www.bassonsound.com/b412.htm

http://www.koch-amps.com/products/index.cfm?fa=mainframe&product_id=&product_cat=&CFID=916676&CFTOKEN=32097091
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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2005, 07:25:48 PM »
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I've got the tone I want in my head, I can't explain it but I can tell when something gets me closer to that tone.

After getting my BKp VHII's (which are awesome guys, thanks so much  :D ) I think I've captured 110% of my ideal tone on the pickup side of things, all I need to do now is to finish assembling my custom guitar and start handwiring a vintage marshall to my spec. I'm buying a plexi RI, taking out the board and replacing it with one I've handwired, and I'll be tweaking every little component to capture the tone I'm after.

Hopefully this should all be done by october/november  :lol:


That sounds like a cool project!! Let us all know how it turns out!


will do - heres some pics so far of my project:

http://www.shredaholic.com/bainzyguitar.html

http://www.shredaholic.com/phase90.html

in addition to the phase 90 ive built an incredible vintage sounding delay that can self oscillate from buildyourownclone.com

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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2005, 07:28:19 PM »
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Ben as a New Yorker how do you get that wah wah clean on Shaft?

You use an evelope filter instead of a wah.  PDT_009


Ahhh! Like those Electro Harmonix things! :lol:
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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2005, 07:30:10 PM »
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I've got the tone I want in my head, I can't explain it but I can tell when something gets me closer to that tone.

After getting my BKp VHII's (which are awesome guys, thanks so much  :D ) I think I've captured 110% of my ideal tone on the pickup side of things, all I need to do now is to finish assembling my custom guitar and start handwiring a vintage marshall to my spec. I'm buying a plexi RI, taking out the board and replacing it with one I've handwired, and I'll be tweaking every little component to capture the tone I'm after.

Hopefully this should all be done by october/november  :lol:


That sounds like a cool project!! Let us all know how it turns out!


will do - heres some pics so far of my project:

http://www.shredaholic.com/bainzyguitar.html

http://www.shredaholic.com/phase90.html

in addition to the phase 90 ive built an incredible vintage sounding delay that can self oscillate from buildyourownclone.com


Nice socks :lol:  :lol:

That looks like a shred machine if I ever saw one! Looks llike it's coming along nicely :)
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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2005, 08:04:02 PM »
I found a discussion about custom speaker cabs (a few years ago now) on a Yahoo forum. The one thing everybody (well a lot of people) agreed on was mixing the speakers in the cab to extend the range and fill in gaps in the tonal range of the cab. You don't need to be too careful about which speakers you use in fully enclosed or open back cabs apparentley but when it comes to ported cabs you have to start worrying about Thiele numbers and other techy stuff. I built a 2 x 12 with a Celestion G12-75T and a Vintage 30, it sounds amazing. Extended top from the G12 and nice rich mids from the vintage 30. It's worth thinking about
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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2005, 08:24:39 PM »
BJ, in broad strokes I agree with what you stated about drivers in cabinets.
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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2005, 09:25:35 PM »
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I've got the tone I want in my head, I can't explain it but I can tell when something gets me closer to that tone.

After getting my BKp VHII's (which are awesome guys, thanks so much  :D ) I think I've captured 110% of my ideal tone on the pickup side of things, all I need to do now is to finish assembling my custom guitar and start handwiring a vintage marshall to my spec. I'm buying a plexi RI, taking out the board and replacing it with one I've handwired, and I'll be tweaking every little component to capture the tone I'm after.

Hopefully this should all be done by october/november  :lol:


That sounds like a cool project!! Let us all know how it turns out!


will do - heres some pics so far of my project:

http://www.shredaholic.com/bainzyguitar.html

http://www.shredaholic.com/phase90.html

in addition to the phase 90 ive built an incredible vintage sounding delay that can self oscillate from buildyourownclone.com


Nice socks :lol:  :lol:

That looks like a shred machine if I ever saw one! Looks llike it's coming along nicely :)


cheers  :D

the socks you can see in the picture are my mate Gurb's feet, he's wearing industrial issue grey striped socks  :lol:

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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2005, 10:55:04 PM »
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Do those Hotplates that a lot you guys are getting have recording outputs?


Hi Johnny, the hot plate has a line out jack with a separate volume control. It's handy in a way because you can effectively turn off the speaker (the hot plate provides the load for the amp). The down side of this is that the speaker and cabinet contribute to the overall tone even at low volumes.

In response to the original thread I go for a fairly vintage sound - you can probably tell from my gear: Strat/ Apaches/ Fender valve amp. It's great for clean or O/D rhythm sounds and the hot plate's helped tremendously  but I'm still working on a good lead sound. I'm currently using the 'more drive' option on my amp but I'm also experimenting with a Keeley Java Boost. If that doesn't do the job I might try a Keeley Fuzz Head for something smooth and sustaining.

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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2005, 02:52:11 AM »
I do not think that the perfect tone exists. Once you find what you thought  was the perfect tone, you realize there is more to look for or when you reach this point, your idea of the perfect tone changes, and you have to start all over again.  :)
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« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2005, 01:23:24 AM »
On the other hand. Angus Young does not use effects, only the natural distortion of a Marshall amp. That tone is way up there, simple yet complete. :)
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« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2005, 03:44:14 PM »
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On the other hand. Angus Young does not use effects, only the natural distortion of a Marshall amp. That tone is way up there, simple yet complete. :)


+1

I couldn't agree more. It's one of the best tones out there. Get an SG, put some Riff Raffs in and hook it up to one of those Rockaforte amps that Ben informed us about and you'll be in tone heaven.
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« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2005, 05:05:02 PM »
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I couldn't agree more. It's one of the best tones out there. Get an SG, put some Riff Raffs in and hook it up to one of those Rockaforte amps that Ben informed us about and you'll be in tone heaven.

LOL, or a Rivera Knucklehead if you can find any in your area.

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« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2005, 05:59:09 PM »
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BJ, in broad strokes I agree with what you stated about drivers in cabinets.
:)

Thanks Twighlight. I guess what I meant but didn't actually say was that whatever you do to get your desired tone it's a whole tougher to achieve if the speakers can't reproduce it.
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« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2005, 03:24:02 PM »
currently playing a Dean Vendetta 2.0
through a SD-1(or a Wah, since I've misplaced the short cable to run'em both) and into a Laney RBW100 bass-amp.

The neck pickup is stock
but the bridge is a BL L500L and it screams :D