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duke84

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Noise reduction pedal
« on: December 26, 2007, 01:21:39 AM »
I'm trying to find the right noise reduction pedal as i'm using a Gibson Les Paul through a Marshall TSL 100 and an MXR 10-band EQ which greatly improves my sound but gives out lots of noise and extra feedback. I am however fond of letting notes decay into feedback like at the end of a solo or whenever the feeling is right so i was wondering what you would recommend.

noodleplugerine

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Noise reduction pedal
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2007, 01:45:09 AM »
ISP Decimator.

And NOTHING else.

Sambo's selling one atm.
My last FM.
ESP Horizon NTII.
ESP Viper Camo.
ENGL Screamer.

hamfist

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Re: Noise reduction pedal
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2007, 09:08:05 AM »
Quote from: duke84
I I am however fond of letting notes decay into feedback like at the end of a solo or whenever the feeling is right so i was wondering what you would recommend.


  You will not get ANY noise reduction pedal/system that allows you to do this. A lot of high gain folks just use their NR pedals for rhythm playing and then kick it off for solos. Getting a NR system to work well for solos is almost impossible.
  The Decimator is as good as anything out there, but NR pedals are not a wonder-cure for a noisy rig. Also consider a way to get the tone you want without the noise in the first place. Maybe a different EQ. I assume you are using a "smile" curve. You could try a very high quality parametric EQ pedal to do the same thing - something like http://www.catalinbread.com/Varioboost.html .
  I've been down this whole path, and in the end I decided I couldn't live with the noise. Something like an ISP Decimator is only actually a noise gate, either fully open or fully shut. When it's open, when you are playing, you still get all the noise over the top of your tone - I couldn't live with that.
  I'm lucky I'm not a particularly high gain player - I know it can be a nightmare. if you are going to persevere with noise reduction, then it is better to use a "little" NR at various places in your signal path (eg, before the amp, and also in the FX loop), rather than one big load of NR at one point. Something like - http://www.isptechnologies.com/decimatorprorackG.htm is about the best you can get.
   Having said all that, I'm sure that you are probably constrained by a budget. You may as well get an ISP Decimator and try it out, it might be enough NR, when set reasonably low, to fit your need. You can then switch it off when you want to let notes decay off into feedback.  I'd say it would be a good idea to buy it online from somewhere that gives you a clear 7 day return option for a full refund. if you are in the UK, then there are loads of retailers that offer this.

Alan

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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2007, 10:45:04 AM »
Well I'm using a Les Paul through an ENGL Screamer 50 with an ISP Decimator, and it does a great job of cutting all the background noise.



Hamfist is right in that it's a noise gate. In other words it'll only cut the noise from when you're not playing. But to me that's very useful.

If you have a noisy guitar SOUND or TONE, (i.e. NOT hiss and noise and background hum from the amp or the guitar), then it won't do a thing for you. As Hamfist says it will not clear you guitar sound of any noise miraculously. So in that respect, as he says, you'd be better of working out where the noise in your sound is coming from. But then again you have an EQ which which would help in that respect I guess.

However I would disagree with his comment about feedback... the ISP does a great job of allowing you to sustain a note for a long time, and I haven't played with it extensively yet but I'm sure I managed to achieve controlled feedback a few times.


Anyway, if you want a background noise-reduction unit, from all reports I've heard ISP is the way to go. And it does indeed make it very quiet for in between chugging parts- so it's fantastic for rhythm. And also it'll be great for my band rehearsals to stop squealing and humming after we stop playing and start talking.  :)

There is also a Boss pedal, and the ISP rack unit (expensive but can run two ISPs- one in the front of the amp one in the effects loop), that are worth looking at.

By the way if you do decide to go for the ISP pedal I do indeed have one for sale as I have 2 at the moment.


Hope this helps.