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Twinfan

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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2008, 05:23:29 PM »
I know - it's crazy.  £2000ish for an R8, £3000 for an R9  :o

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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2008, 05:27:43 PM »
It's a crazy price ....  :?

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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2008, 05:31:54 PM »
Gibson are an bloody horrible company. They are just SO up their own arses, and the thing that makes it so damn irritating is that everyone plays along with the old "yeah, gibsons are cool. you get what you pay for" bollucks. I've never played a Gibson, custom shop or otherwise that i liked even nearly as much as my £180 Greco.
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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2008, 05:36:48 PM »
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Gibson are an bloody horrible company. They are just SO up their own arses, and the thing that makes it so damn irritating is that everyone plays along with the old "yeah, gibsons are cool. you get what you pay for" bollucks. I've never played a Gibson, custom shop or otherwise that i liked even nearly as much as my £180 Greco.


This reminds me of another thread.

It all changes when you find the right Gibson for you. After that you'll never look back.

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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2008, 05:39:19 PM »
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Quote from: indysmith
Gibson are an bloody horrible company. They are just SO up their own arses, and the thing that makes it so damn irritating is that everyone plays along with the old "yeah, gibsons are cool. you get what you pay for" bollucks. I've never played a Gibson, custom shop or otherwise that i liked even nearly as much as my £180 Greco.


This reminds me of another thread.

It all changes when you find the right Gibson for you. After that you'll never look back.

Indeed. I can see how it would!
I'm not actually putting down their guitars at all, as a few I've played have been of reasonable quality. It's just their arrogance and bad business ethics that annoy me.
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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2008, 05:42:04 PM »
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Gibson are an bloody horrible company. They are just SO up their own arses, and the thing that makes it so damn irritating is that everyone plays along with the old "yeah, gibsons are cool. you get what you pay for" bollucks. I've never played a Gibson, custom shop or otherwise that i liked even nearly as much as my £180 Greco.


This reminds me of another thread.

It all changes when you find the right Gibson for you. After that you'll never look back.

Indeed. I can see how it would!
I'm not actually putting down their guitars at all, as a few I've played have been of reasonable quality. It's just their arrogance and bad business ethics that annoy me.


That I agree with - particularly the bad business side. Perhaps this merger will sort them out in that respect.

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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2008, 05:58:30 PM »
Double post....

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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2008, 06:12:38 PM »
The custom shop guitars are now set up using that PLEK thingummy.  Don't know that much about it other than it's done with a computer, but I can say that the setup on my guitar was perfect out of the box - low action with no hint of frett buzz anywhere on the neck.
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« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2008, 06:15:30 PM »
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The custom shop guitars are now set up using that PLEK thingummy.  Don't know that much about it other than it's done with a computer, but I can say that the setup on my guitar was perfect out of the box - low action with no hint of frett buzz anywhere on the neck.


that's very cool  8)
i gotta get me one of thems PLEK machines
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« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2008, 06:19:43 PM »
There is definately alot to be said about build quality, often underestimated i think on this forum.

The build quality of my 70's customs is par to none in their pricerange IMO, sure there are better ones, and even my LP standard sounds better, but playing those zoo LP's is just such a joy.
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« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2008, 08:42:21 PM »
It is still possible for custom shop guitars not to be up to scratch though. A friend of my father bought a Custom Shop Jimmy Page LP last year, and when he took it to the tech for a quick check a few days after buying it, there was a kink in the neck around the fifth fret. Curable, but it shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Whether or not this was Gibson's fault or the fault of a guy in the store thinking he knew how to set something up is, of course, open to question.
It's not just Gibson either. The same friend (he's a bit of a collector) bought a Fender Custom Shop 50s reissue Strat, which needed 60 quids-worth of fret levelling done to bring it up to scratch.

It's definitely worth trying things first, or if you can't, having a rock solid returns agreement.

I do agree about Gibson's current business practices - it puts me off their guitars more than any concerns about build quality. I'd rather have a PRS, Feline, Rob Williams or Nathan Sheppard  guitar for the money.
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« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2008, 08:36:51 AM »
I'd rather have MIJ or PRS to be fair.

Modern day Gibson really suck @ss.

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« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2008, 09:30:35 AM »
By all accounts, the 70s ones made by Norlin aren't great either.  Pancake bodies anyone?

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« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2008, 11:09:53 AM »
I love Gibson, I love to slag Gibson, or more accurately, I have a love-hate relationship with Gibson and Gibson guitars.

Since the Elder Days, even back in the mists of time when Gibson archtops were carved by the hands of actual elves, Gibson has had inconsistent QC.  That includes pre-war models, classic '50's Lesters, you name it.  At times, the problem has been less pronounced, but it has always been there.  

At the same time, Gibson has made some ethereal instruments at all times in its history.  Even during the worst of the bad old Norlin days, you could play some Gibson guitars and immediately hear the old elven magic.  Others required a little work to bring out the music that was in them, and others plain stunk.  

In general, Gibson today reflects the character of its management.  Greedy, grasping, poor dealer relations, outrageous prices, cr@ptastic service, and guitars marketed to yuppies rather than musicians.  

Gibson still has QC problems, all the way from the lowliest budget range up through the most expensive one-off super limited edition we really mean it this time custom shop heritage commemorative models.  The largely hand made Custom Shop models are even more inconsistent, in my experience, probably because they are hand made.  The same goes double for limited editions.

A good Gibson, however, is still a joy to play and to hear, and those guitars are still being made, in spite of management's best efforts to bar the Noldor from the factory.  Because Gibsons keep their value so well, I would not worry about buying a sought-after model from a reliable source on the internet.  If you don't like the guitar, you can always sell it for about what you paid for it.

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« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2008, 11:52:49 AM »
Excellent post Prawnik and right on the money. Particularly the elven parts. I often wondered how Gibby's were actually made  :D