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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2008, 05:03:25 PM »
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But if you play punk, what do you need good tone for anyway?  :P Spend the money on beer for Pete's sake!


Haha, yeah, well, it´s not punk but commercial "punk pop" so Im not really that cool :wink:

Its dense mixes with lots of guitars, lots of backing vocals and lots of synths mixed in and all that cr@p so I need some high-tech dist but still with an organic touch. I found EMGs to be too sterile sounding.  

Good suggestions so far Ill check ´em all out. Thanks.

Just listened to Steve Stevens Rebel Yell demo. Thats a nice sound as well although (shoot me now)  it somehow reminded me of the old 80´s ADA preamp  :)

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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2008, 05:08:29 PM »
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Oh and by the way, dont say punk-pop which is a contradicion in terms, just say punkrock and everyone knows what you mean.


Well, I know what you mean but still... I wouldn´t call.. say Avril Lavigne "punk rock" to me thats pop with some punk elements mixed in (punk pop) but maybe thats just me  :P

So, right, the music is punkrock but pretty poppy as such...  :P

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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2008, 09:55:22 PM »
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Oh and by the way, dont say punk-pop which is a contradicion in terms, just say punkrock and everyone knows what you mean.

Well it may or may not be a contradiction in terms, but I'm sure we all know what pop-punk is, even decrepit old gits like me.  There's been more than enough of it around for the last decade or so.

It's one of the main reasons I stopped watching music video channels and buying weekly rock music magazines (the other main reason was the band HIM  :x ).  No offence to anyone who likes it.
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2008, 10:49:46 PM »
I think you'd like the Ceramic Warpig

The Blink 182 guitarist used a seymour duncan invader which isn't that different technically to the ceramic warpig

Except the bareknuckle will sound much better, clearer etc
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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2008, 11:00:45 PM »
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I think you'd like the Ceramic Warpig

total overkill man. I'd go for VHIIs
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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2008, 12:30:05 AM »
commercial pop-punk? steer clear of nailbombs then.

VH2, Rebel Yell or possibly mules surely... depending on how hot you like things.
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2008, 12:33:07 AM »
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I think you'd like the Ceramic Warpig

total overkill man. I'd go for VHIIs


I disagree
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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2008, 10:10:03 AM »
I think that "pop punk" is a good description.  If I think about punk rock, I think about The Clash or the Pistols, or Stiff Little Fingers - the last thing that these bands would have done is bought expensive, top of the range retrofit pickups!  They played what they could afford at the time and created as much noise as they could through pretty average gear...

So maybe the Stormy Mondays through a cranked amp might be close to what punk was about?
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« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2008, 10:57:53 AM »
punks about an attitude, you could use any gear.

nevertheless some punks have great tone! you'd want to go for something agressive - probably not the stormy monday which is quite friendly sounding.

nailbomb would be the thing for modern/contemporary punk probably - but we're talking commercial poppunk - like ash, blink etc etc and i think it would be too agressive.

ash use PAF pickups like the mule. i use the mule myself for 'real' punk, and it works well.

i think the rebel yell has that friendly/agressive combination and sounds quite large and so in my opinion it would be good for the style as well. the VH2 is not a bkp i've tried personally, although by reputation it sits between the two.

dont forget all these poppunk bands are incredibly well produced, they could probably use any humbucker to get that sound.
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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2008, 11:30:56 AM »
albin - Lots of pop punk bands like Set Your Goals, Hit the Lights etc are using EMG 81/85 through mesa rectifiers

I honestly think the ceramic warpig is your answer. It's the BK passive version of the EMG 81, but sounds much more alive and 3D

Sounds like you've got it sorted with your amp set up
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« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2008, 09:14:33 AM »
^ United Kingdom Broadcasting Act 1990 — Part III, chapter I, article 85, point 6 (html). Retrieved on 2007-12-01. “Pop music includes rock music and other kinds of modern popular music which are characterised by a strong rhythmic element and a reliance on electronic amplification for their performance (whether or not, in the case of any particular piece of rock or other such music, the music in question enjoys a current popularity as measured by the number of recordings sold)”


You may only call yourself pop or punk-pop if you have allready sold alot of records appearently  :lol: So i guess metallica may call themselves metal-pop :band4:

Sorry just kidding offcourse, do what ever you like, but i do think pop is a musical genre and should not be used to indicate commercial intent.
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« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2008, 09:27:20 AM »
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You may only call yourself pop or punk-pop if you have allready sold alot of records appearently  :lol: So i guess metallica may call themselves metal-pop


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"....whether or not, in the case of any particular piece of rock or other such music, the music in question enjoys a current popularity as measured by the number of recordings sold"

By that definition you don't need to be commercially successful to qualify as "pop".

So pop means popular.  Whether it's actually popular or not.  :wink:
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« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2008, 10:52:55 AM »
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punks about an attitude


truth.
so, no matter the pickup, you gotta use this:
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« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2008, 02:29:25 PM »
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You may only call yourself pop or punk-pop if you have allready sold alot of records appearently  :lol: So i guess metallica may call themselves metal-pop


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"....whether or not, in the case of any particular piece of rock or other such music, the music in question enjoys a current popularity as measured by the number of recordings sold"

By that definition you don't need to be commercially successful to qualify as "pop".

So pop means popular.  Whether it's actually popular or not.  :wink:


Hehe, so... The album will be out this spring if all goes well so i guess I´ll have to wait until then to see if its pop (popular) or not.

You can check out the music (not mastered) if you want on:
http://www.myspace.com/thezooworld

Pop punk or not? Or just pop? Or just cr@p   :P

Anyway the album was recorded with a strat ultra with stock pup´s--> marshall JMP-1 --> Marshall EL34 --> marshall 2x12 and recorded through SM57/royer r121 combo into dual Neve 1073s. I was not really happy with the guitar sound. I lacks definition imo. So now im looking to put together a new setup, starting with pickups  :wink:

Many great suggestions so far.
I´m trying to get my hands on every demo that has been posted here in the forum right now to make up my mind  :P

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« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2008, 07:15:52 PM »
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You may only call yourself pop or punk-pop if you have allready sold alot of records appearently  :lol: So i guess metallica may call themselves metal-pop


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"....whether or not, in the case of any particular piece of rock or other such music, the music in question enjoys a current popularity as measured by the number of recordings sold"

By that definition you don't need to be commercially successful to qualify as "pop".

So pop means popular.  Whether it's actually popular or not.  :wink:



Owell cr@p, seems a bit of a dodo to make pop music if its not popular though :P
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