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Philly Q

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« Reply #75 on: February 06, 2008, 10:47:05 AM »
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Les Paul and two SGs for sale - anyone? Can I keep my Fenders and Ibanez  :lol:

I dunno... show us pictures so we can see if we want to buy them!  :wink:
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« Reply #76 on: February 06, 2008, 10:49:19 AM »
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The Gibson target demographic (middle-aged white men with cash to spend and a desire to re-live their youth) does not appear to be sated, even though Gibson keeps coming out with increasingly dubious concepts.  



shitee! I thought I bought mine because I've always loved music and playing guitars  :cry:  
Les Paul and two SGs for sale - anyone? Can I keep my Fenders and Ibanez  :lol:


Me as well ... and all this time I just thought I wanted a Gibson Les Paul, since I was a teenager, because of it's awesome tone and rock solid build.

I mean how wrong was I ? ....  :D

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« Reply #77 on: February 06, 2008, 12:47:38 PM »
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Les Paul and two SGs for sale - anyone? Can I keep my Fenders and Ibanez  :lol:

I dunno... show us pictures so we can see if we want to buy them!  :wink:


Nah .... on second thoughts might keep them. Perhaps we could form a power trio with Dave or Philking.......

How about "Gerry and the Hat Tricks"...we could then condense this down on the album to "The Geriatrics"   :band4:
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« Reply #78 on: February 06, 2008, 01:16:02 PM »
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Les Paul and two SGs for sale - anyone? Can I keep my Fenders and Ibanez  :lol:

I dunno... show us pictures so we can see if we want to buy them!  :wink:


Nah .... on second thoughts might keep them. Perhaps we could form a power trio with Dave or Philking.......
How about "Gerry and the Hat Tricks"...we could then condense this down on the album to "The Geriatrics"   :band4:

 :lol: Dunno how Dave would take that, he's a mere boy compared to us lot, I think!  :lol:   Maybe Steve (Mr 38th) on bass?
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« Reply #79 on: February 06, 2008, 02:12:24 PM »
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Maybe Steve (Mr 38th) on bass?


Good call - we could then make a quartet and call ourselves "Four Way Switch"   :band1: :guitar4:
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« Reply #80 on: February 06, 2008, 09:02:55 PM »
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Maybe Steve (Mr 38th) on bass?


Good call - we could then make a quartet and call ourselves "Four Way Switch"   :band1: :guitar4:

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« Reply #81 on: February 07, 2008, 05:16:32 AM »
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Maybe Steve (Mr 38th) on bass?


Good call - we could then make a quartet and call ourselves "Four Way Switch"   :band1: :guitar4:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


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Due to pre-emptive creative differences and a certain band member's ongoing battle with Sanatogen addiction.

I wish to announce that I will no longer be associated with the mature beat combo - "Four Way Switch".

Please look for my upcoming solo release "The Volume Knob"

Thank you to my fans for your support in these difficult times.

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« Reply #82 on: February 07, 2008, 11:01:16 AM »
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The Gibson target demographic (middle-aged white men with cash to spend and a desire to re-live their youth) does not appear to be sated, even though Gibson keeps coming out with increasingly dubious concepts.  



shitee! I thought I bought mine because I've always loved music and playing guitars  :cry:  
Les Paul and two SGs for sale - anyone? Can I keep my Fenders and Ibanez  :lol:


Hey, I like and play Gibsons as well.  I will probably buy another one soon.  

All the same, you and I are just not typical Gibson buyers.  Go to a Gibson messageboard and the median age is about 50.

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« Reply #83 on: February 07, 2008, 11:04:56 AM »
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Personally I don't have a problem with Gibson experimenting with things like Floyd Rose trems and contoured bodies etc.

As long as they continue to make the models that they do, then there is no issue.

It was mentioned in this thread that Gibson should give up development and concentrate on quality control.

I'm pretty certain that the Research and Development and Quality Control departments at Gibson will have no crossover budget and will have very little to do with one another. Whilst QC should be tweaked it's vitally important to continue to develop as a company - no matter what that company is.

I'm all for Gibson continuing to go for new ideas. What I would like to see is an entirely new model aimed at the single coil Strat market. I know Gibson do a single coil SG but it would be interesting to see Gibson's take on a Strat based shape.


See, I would suggest that Gibson should stick with what it is (was) good at, for the time being, rather than try to be all things to all guitarists.   We already have a Strat; we don't need another one.  

Another way to put it - overextension and overexpansion have been the death of many a great company.

While the R&D and QC budgets probably don't overlap, Gibson should fix itself and its problems and only then consider expanding into other models that will also need fixing.

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« Reply #84 on: February 07, 2008, 11:50:31 AM »
thing is, Gibson don't see themselves as having problems.  they sell their guitars by the boatload and every overpriced "limited edition" (fender too) sells out immediately.

it's only a small minority of people that think their QC stinks.  read the reviews on Harmony Central, how many times do you see the words, "hey, it's a Gibson, it's rock solid!"

truth is, the majority of guitar buyers would see little difference in quality between a Gibson Les Paul, a PRS single cut and an Epiphone Les Paul.  but they've heard of Gibson! and their hero plays one.
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« Reply #85 on: February 07, 2008, 12:06:02 PM »
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All the same, you and I are just not typical Gibson buyers.  Go to a Gibson messageboard and the median age is about 50.

Hey, we all get older!  :)   I'm closer to 50 than I am to... youth.  And Tellboy's no spring chicken!  :wink:
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« Reply #86 on: February 07, 2008, 02:03:11 PM »
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thing is, Gibson don't see themselves as having problems.  they sell their guitars by the boatload and every overpriced "limited edition" (fender too) sells out immediately.

it's only a small minority of people that think their QC stinks.  read the reviews on Harmony Central, how many times do you see the words, "hey, it's a Gibson, it's rock solid!"

truth is, the majority of guitar buyers would see little difference in quality between a Gibson Les Paul, a PRS single cut and an Epiphone Les Paul.  but they've heard of Gibson! and their hero plays one.


These are excellent points.

I said this before but it's worth repeating. The vast majority of Gibsons that roll off the production line will be 100% in terms of finish, build and setup. Yes there are some that could be better and that's something that Gibson really should put right.

I played several Gibson LP's in January, whilst I was trying out amps. Each one had an immaculate finish. They were setup correctly (not by the store) and they sounded tremendous. I think it was 9 different ones that I played. Some were Standards, some were Classics and one was a faded honey burst (50's neck) which was awesome.

To be absolutely honest I would have been happy to take home any one of them as they were.

I would agree that Gibson QC was pretty ropey when I was looking for one in 2000. The same thing can't be said in 2008, from my experience.

Perhaps we should take stock of things and actually try a few new Gibsons, rather than roll out the (admitidly deserved) jibes at the QC issues from years gone by.

What we need is reports on new Gibsons, maybe in a new thread.

You'll have to excuse me now ..... I'm off to the store to play that honey burst again  :D

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« Reply #87 on: February 07, 2008, 02:37:24 PM »
thing is the UK can fit into Texas (just one state in US) TWICE, ergo think of amount of Les Pauls in stores there compared to here. Simple math and equations. THERE are MANY dud Gibsons still now.
Apart from that, NO-ONE should have to shell out about two grand for somthing that needs to go to a repair shop (luthier) before it's in excellent working order.
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« Reply #88 on: February 07, 2008, 03:11:00 PM »
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thing is the UK can fit into Texas (just one state in US) TWICE, ergo think of amount of Les Pauls in stores there compared to here. Simple math and equations.

'Tis true, but remember the population of the UK is about 3 times that of Texas.  Not sure about the comparative numbers of Les Pauls per head of population, of course...

And the population of the USA as a whole is only 5 times that of the UK.  I'm not sure what that proves, if anything, but thought I'd mention it.
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« Reply #89 on: February 07, 2008, 03:14:38 PM »
what all twas getting at Philly is I can put my hands on over 60+ LP's within a 45min drive here.
I am NOT a LP hater (as most now I OWN one) but I AM a lazy/money grabbing/rest on past laurels/lets fleece people on past glories hater ;)
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