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Glassy, Sweet, Bell like tone?
« on: February 14, 2008, 02:58:24 AM »
What kind of pups would be best for bringing out a nice Glassy, Sweet, Bell like tone?  I don't like trying to describe tone/sound, I find it quite difficult, but was wondering what would do this best?  Play something on your first 5 frets while doing your picking/strumming over the 12th fret.  It's really.... well... bellish.  I can't think of another way to describe it...  Hopefully what I've said does it thuogh.  Any BKP's "enhance" this?  Bring it out more?  No guitar in particular, I'm thinking building one around this concept though...
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2008, 07:27:25 AM »
I assume that you are talking S type guitar but perhaps you could tell us more. The tones you talk of are traditionally ascribed to S types -or at least they are to me.
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2008, 07:32:40 AM »
lol
will you make a hollow body in bronze cast metal?
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2008, 01:31:31 PM »
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lol
will you make a hollow body in bronze cats metal?

LOL


If pressed, I would say that Mr38th is on the right track ... bell-like, to my ears = Strat neck tones.

The most bell-like Strat neck tone I've come across is the Irish Tour. Mileage may vary, but that's been my experience thus far.
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2008, 02:34:31 PM »
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lol
will you make a hollow body in bronze cats metal?

LOL


If pressed, I would say that Mr38th is on the right track ... bell-like, to my ears = Strat neck tones.

The most bell-like Strat neck tone I've come across is the Irish Tour. Mileage may vary, but that's been my experience thus far.


+1 as well as 11's and relatively high action.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2008, 09:18:19 PM »
No guitar in particular... I kinda want to put one together though...   Maybe I'll look at a set of Irish Tours for my strat...
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2008, 11:31:21 PM »
Well also check out the Apaches I would suggest.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2008, 01:32:40 PM »
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Well also check out the Apaches I would suggest.

Hehe, I figured Apaches would come into the conversation at some point.

To my ears, the Apaches are tonally neutral. They do that classic 'quack and spank' of Strat pups beautifully, but they are not the first pup that comes to mind when I think of bell-like tones.

Admittedly, I've only had very limited experience with the Apaches (In Phil's '50-whatever Strat) versus the Irish Tour neck (which I own and have used in several guitars).
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2008, 01:34:20 PM »
I can vouch for the bell-ness of the ITs

But I only have uber-trillogies for comparison, and have only had the ITs in one guitar

So take no notice of me!
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2008, 06:23:02 PM »
Ben, you know me too well. I can't comment on the IT's  though and I have no doubt you are correct but I can get a beautiful warm Strat tone out of mine.
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2008, 06:47:18 PM »
As a non-owner of any BKPs for my Strat , I (as a lover of bell like tones, cluck and quack ) - would have thought ( If I had to guess ) that BKP Sultans are the very ticket .

Having said that, I want some high end 'sparkle' in there too - and presume the lower powered Sultans are the 'sparkliest' of all  ...  8)

Any comments ?
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2008, 07:25:00 PM »
^ Good questions, all

Any opinions, fellas??
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2008, 08:11:24 PM »
All of the BK strat pickups will do what you are asking.  The Stormy Monday can also give you some very hollow sounding clean tones.  I would say that the Apache's are cleaner than the Irish Tours, however it also depends on the guitar.  There are tones in different guitar contruction which will also determine this.  To me the most bell like tones need a 25.5 inch scale, it seems to let the strings ring more.

I think we need an example of the tone you mean, do you have a piece of music where you hear it?
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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2008, 09:09:39 PM »
No I dont' have any particular piece of music in mind.  I'm thinking of getting a guitar for this "Tonal Concept" though...  Sounds like it'll be a strat.  I've never been a fan of the Strat's temolo arm though, which seems to be norm.  I never use it and doesn't help any as far as staying in tune and what not.  I haven't screwed in the arm on my strat for ages...  I think I might find a hard-tail strat.  

Where I've got this idea from isn't music, but from playing my guitar by doing my picking/strumming much higher up on the strings than normal. Depending on where you're playing on the fretboard, do your picking anywhere from the 12th fret to the 20th fret.  Maybe even unplug it.  I absolutely love that sound... It's almost like a classical guitar... but not quite.
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2008, 09:27:17 PM »
Just get a hard tail, or use 5 springs on the trem. :)
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