Author Topic: Gibson 1984 Les Paul (Read 7949 times)

sambo · « **Reply #30 on:** February 28, 2008, 03:40:02 PM »

^Jeez- looking at it after reading what Phil just posted- the tuners + headstock definitely looks very odd. The tuners are squashed towards to the middle of the headstock (it looks like), or the headstock is just too long. :?

Twinfan · « **Reply #31 on:** February 28, 2008, 03:54:37 PM »

They do say in the ad that this was a period of transition between factories for Gibson. May explain the non-standard things?

The "Made in Usa" legend appears to be underneath the serial number, but it looks to be stamped differently and fainter?

Hmm.

Could be a Gibsonised Tokai/Greco/Burny? I'd love to check it out in the flesh and pull the neck pickup. If it's a Japanese copy, it'll probably have the long neck tenon....

mikeluke · « **Reply #32 on:** February 28, 2008, 04:20:39 PM »

I've just done a visual v my 89 Standard - couple of things look odd/different - the serial number is too 'clean' - mine is quite hard to read unless you have very good light, with the lacquer filling quite a lot of the numbers, also the script for the Les Paul logo also does not look quite right - there is a very subtle difference - another minor point (and this might be the pictures) the horns on the top of the headstock do not look quite sharp enough. Enough doubt to not spend £1300 on it anyway!!

Mike

jpfamps · « **Reply #33 on:** February 28, 2008, 04:44:03 PM »

The best advice I've had on vintage/old guitars is from a VERY high end collector.

His view is that if you aren't 100% certain it's correct and its being sold as a no issues guitar don't buy it as there will always be something else cool out there.

Will · « **Reply #34 on:** February 28, 2008, 04:55:20 PM »

from 1981...

sambo · « **Reply #35 on:** February 28, 2008, 05:09:29 PM »

Quote from: Twinfan

The "Made in Usa" legend appears to be underneath the serial number, but it looks to be stamped differently and fainter?

Yeah I just noticed that. Although I can't see the "USA" at all.

EDIT: And looking at that photo from Will, I'm SURE that the tuners on the 1984 are too close together or something. :?

Will · « **Reply #36 on:** February 28, 2008, 05:12:44 PM »

Mine is similar I think, the MI USA stamp is faint, but I would bet it is more apparent in person, and the headstock layout is similar, the height of the Gibson logo is slightly different, and the headstock doesn't seem as shaped around the tuner parts, only issues I can find :?

edit: looking at more photos, it looks like it curves up too quickly coming from the neck. meaning the stretch from first pointy bit to the corner near G is longer

headtheball · « **Reply #37 on:** February 28, 2008, 07:28:02 PM »

Quote from: mikeluke

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GUILD-S90-1974-EXCELLENT-ORIGINAL-INC-CASE_W0QQitemZ120225273887QQihZ002QQcategoryZ41436QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Seen this?

Now that fairly stirs my porridge. Watchy-watchy for me.

Buddha · « **Reply #38 on:** February 28, 2008, 08:17:19 PM »

I know the shop in question (aroundabout sound), it's just down the road from me actually. I must admit though that it isn't my favourite locally. It has a good range of the well known stuff, and for around here it also has a good amount of second hand stuff, but i find it too dark, and while the staff are ok i don't seem to get on with them that well

AngusYoung01 · « **Reply #39 on:** February 28, 2008, 09:56:45 PM »

See thats the thing, the place is quality, and the people are awesome. It's my local, and I wans't questioning whether its real or not because I didn't think it was an issue, the staff would say if they knew if it was fake.

Thanks for the info Phil!

But as its said, it is apparently from the transition period so there was a load of cost cutting things going on.

Strange, never realised it would escolate like this :lol: , but all useful info!