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« on: February 28, 2008, 01:20:10 PM »
Just went for a nose around a guitar shop and asked about LP Studios - they didn't have any in.  The guy said that there were major problems with the UK Gibson distributor, that Gibbo were in the process of changing distribution companies.

Don't know if this it true, or indeed of any interest to anyone...

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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2008, 01:57:46 PM »
Yes its true - I'm trying to find a les paul classic antique to try and its tough. I think there will be a drought of guitars until gibson sort out their distribution

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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2008, 02:14:42 PM »
They used to come via Rosetti - not great reputation amongst folks that I have spoken to but that might have been as much down to Gibson as them...
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2008, 02:19:48 PM »
Quote from: mikeluke
They used to come via Rosetti - not great reputation amongst folks that I have spoken to but that might have been as much down to Gibson as them...


Well I know Rickenbacker have had real issues with Rosetti too (& I have heard mention that Ovation are less than happy)
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2008, 02:21:48 PM »
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They used to come via Rosetti - not great reputation amongst folks that I have spoken to but that might have been as much down to Gibson as them...


Well I know Rickenbacker have had real issues with Rosetti too (& I have heard mention that Ovation are less than happy)
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2008, 02:27:59 PM »
Gibson are sorting out their own European distribution this year.


I thought Ovation were distributed by JHS in the UK

Gibson, Epiphone , Rickenbacker and BC Rich are/were done by Rosetti
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2008, 03:05:13 PM »
I was being diplomatic just in case I got sued!

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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2008, 03:32:06 PM »
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Gibson are sorting out their own European distribution this year.


I thought Ovation were distributed by JHS in the UK

Gibson, Epiphone , Rickenbacker and BC Rich are/were done by Rosetti


You are right (DOH) WTF did I get Ovation from  :? as JHS has distributed them for ages (possibly it's a flashback from the 80s) <SIGH>
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2008, 03:42:45 PM »
I've heard on the grapevine that there are plans by fender to have 'fender europe' super centers, and you would only be able to buy fenders from there.

Heard gibson may be doing the same...

BUT, it's only a rumour. and we know what those are like...

I hope that they sort it out so that little shops can buy in Gibson and Epi gear. I'm sure it would help my local faveourite shop.
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2008, 04:14:29 PM »
I have heard a lot of negative things on this forum about Gibson quality. Being that the majority on here seem to be British, I am assuming that you are all buying your Gibson's in England/Europe. Has the quality control really been that bad over there?
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2008, 04:22:46 PM »
Kellar - don't know where you are based - I've bought 2 in the USA and the quality there was not great!! Mind you, I only bought them to sell on in the UK, rather than keep.
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2008, 04:28:01 PM »
I am American but I live in Germany where my wife is attending school. I haven't bought a Gibson over here so I can't really comment.

Not that the quality is any better in the U.S.. I have heard plenty of complaints about the quality over there in the last couple of years.

I am a little curious though as I have always had my guitars setup in the shop I bought them at. When you mean quality issues, are you talking about just a bad setup or larger issues?
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2008, 04:48:08 PM »
It was poor a few years ago but in my opinion seems to be improving - if the Gibson LP's I played recently are anything to go by.

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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2008, 11:54:38 PM »
At the lower price end the guitars are just banged out and the quality control, level of finish etc is not great - sharp fret edges, glue spots, rough finish - that kind of thing - higher end stuff might be OK - I've never played a 'new' high end LP tp compare with my 89 one.
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« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2008, 05:11:36 PM »
Indeed Gibson are setting up there own distribution.

It is easy to knock Gibson for QC issues, however they are trying to hand build guitars in the US where they need to pay decent wages, health care insurance and obey relatively strict environmental and safety laws, whilst competing on price with the Far East where wages are very low, and health and safety and environmental laws are lax to say the least. Even with CNC mechanisation (which Gibson don't use, or at least didn't when I went to there factory a a couple of years ago) guitar building is very labour intensive so if you are trying to compete on price with the Far East corners probably are being cut on the cheaper guitars. When it comes to the more expensive guitars there is definitely a massive increase in quality (as there should be).

My guess is that back in the day the distributor/dealers in the UK used to set up and fret dress all the guitars they got so the average playability of a new guitar might well have been better than it is now. Unfortunately this added value is not perceived by most customers who tend to go for the cheapest available source — a problem compounded by the internet. I've heard all the guys I know working in music shops say they regularly have customers come in a say "I can get this for X on the internet so I only want to pay X for this" despite having spent 2 hours trying the guitar out and asking loads of questions. Believe me the margins are new Gibsons are now very low, with many internet retailers selling guitars for not much more than trade + VAT. Ensentially these guys are selling boxes not guitars, and probably couldn't even change the strings on one!!

Guitars invariabley need setting up after shipping. Hopefully Gibson will address this issue with their new distribution and we can look forward to Gibson playing better "out of the box"