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gwEm

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« on: March 11, 2008, 06:26:30 PM »
has anyone built one of these into a guitar?

i might be interested in doing that myself, if anyone has any experience of it - i'd like to know. as people might have noticed, i'm not a big fan of bassy guitar tones.

heres a g&l schematic:
http://www.glguitars.com/schematics/S-500_schematic_blockdiagram.pdf

opinions?
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2008, 01:26:59 PM »
dont know if anyone cares about this...

but a small update: tim has suggested to me bass roll offs are hard to get right without spoiling the tone of the guitar... apparantly 1meg pots might be a better idea, to allow more treble through - in other words there would be relatively less bass, which would be a fine compromise.

i'm going to try both: more later
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2008, 09:27:06 PM »
I tried 1 & 2 meg pots but thought that they were too bright - 1 meg is OK if you have a high output dark sounding pickup but the 2's were overkill.
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2008, 09:39:32 PM »
This sounds like the Fender TBX control, you checked them out before?
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2008, 10:58:20 AM »
thanks for the advice phil and badger.

i tried a bass roll off with various series capacitors of different values. tim's definately right that its not that easy to find a satisfying value, but by trying a few values i got something ok. the problem is the filter has 1st order characteristics and the roll off is not very tight so its harder to find the right sweet spot.

the 1M pots not having arrived yet (only ordered them yesterday!) i simply tried removing the tone control from the bridge pickup. not exactly the same, but should have a similar effect. in the end i prefered this way of brightening the tone. it could be nice to brighten it some more, perhaps... i'll try 1M pots and no bridge tone control when they arrive.

seems as if i prefer my high output pickups to be what some would consider to be very bright sounding... they appear fine to my ears though. hmm... wish i could try some other forum members axes with my rig.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2008, 12:29:04 PM »
Hoyer used to do it on their guitars as well as Gibson on the Johnny Smith semi

My late employee Chris had a Hoyer Flying V with it and also did the same to one of his Gibson Vees too
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