Author Topic: Fastest neck? (Read 11742 times)

opprobrium_9 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 13, 2008, 06:41:31 PM »

Quote from: Crazy_Joe

For me it has to be the Wizard necks.

yep.

sambo · « **Reply #16 on:** March 13, 2008, 06:47:38 PM »

Quote from: Twinfan

For me, it's the PRS Wide Thin

+1.

Philly Q · « **Reply #17 on:** March 13, 2008, 06:55:50 PM »

Quote from: Will

Quote from: Philly Q
I've never really understood the concept of a "fast neck". :?

The only factors slowing me down are my fingers, not the perceived velocity of the neck. It just sits there minding its own business.

I agree with you there. Is that good? you say you are awful at guitar, so by your standards, I am too :)

Don't worry Will, I don't think agreeing with me makes you bad at guitar. It's not contagious.

AngusYoung01 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 13, 2008, 08:12:17 PM »

Charvel necks are stunningly perfect for me :D

Adam.M · « **Reply #19 on:** March 14, 2008, 02:45:18 AM »

Oddly, the fender modern C neck shape seems to be perfect for my hands.

It is indeed down to the player, the thinner the better is ont always the case, especially during prolonged playing, i can play really fast on thinner necks but my hand does not thank me for it.

the fender modern C shape for me is a great trade off between compfort and speed.

a shame, as i dont like the look of fenders but they're all i can play! :D i'll have to pimp mine out and make it sexy.

Scott674 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 14, 2008, 03:14:35 AM »

I like the Wizard II... I've had a strat my whole playing career, recently got a RG and after playing that non stop for a couple of weeks, the strat feels completely odd, completely different. I'm going to have to try to lower the action a tich, it feels very akward to play the strat now...

pagan7 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 14, 2008, 08:43:50 PM »

For me it's Ibanez Wizard necks and 24 jumbo frets also.
Though if my hands were any smaller or bigger I might think otherwise
I think it's down to the individual anatomy of the player as much as it is to the neck specification.

AngusYoung01 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 14, 2008, 09:28:42 PM »

Quote from: Scott674

I like the Wizard II... I've had a strat my whole playing career, recently got a RG and after playing that non stop for a couple of weeks, the strat feels completely odd, completely different. I'm going to have to try to lower the action a tich, it feels very akward to play the strat now...

I've gotten like that with my SG. Its just no where near as nice to play as my Charvel, the necks too fat, strings too close together.... just feels cheap, bizarrely.

PoshCollins · « **Reply #23 on:** March 15, 2008, 11:44:51 PM »

Shaved Ibanez PGM 300.

Alex · « **Reply #24 on:** March 16, 2008, 09:55:28 AM »

Some people say that the Ibanez superstrat necks are among the fastest. And they are right to some extent.
"Fast" usually means that the neck is not only highly playable and comfortable, but also very fast in attack and resonating. You don't have to "wait" for the note to ring out. This is a very subtle effect.
For example, I noticed this "slowness" only on my Gibby SG after directly comparing it to the Ibanez RG.

However, usually "fastness" has less to do with the thickness or radius of the neck, but with the material. Harder woods usually resonate quicker. LEss mass is also quicker, therefore thin maple necks or those with walnut between them are more quick to react to your playing.

That said you can always - and will often - encounter good wood on higherpriced instruments which will often be much more responsive than lets say the "lame" mahagony neck on a 300 pound low-budget LesPaul copy.

Many people think such features as a very flat neck, jumbo frets or scalloped neck makes a neck faster for playing. THis is only half-true or not even at all. In fact such features make techniques easier often associated with high-speed shredding: tapping,legatos etc.

So don't confuse "fast neck" with the ability to play fast; it's more how quick the neck reacts to your playing and how fast notes jump of the fretboard.

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #25 on:** March 16, 2008, 11:30:05 AM »

Quote from: Alex

Some people say that the Ibanez superstrat necks are among the fastest. And they are right to some extent.
"Fast" usually means that the neck is not only highly playable and comfortable, but also very fast in attack and resonating. You don't have to "wait" for the note to ring out. This is a very subtle effect.
For example, I noticed this "slowness" only on my Gibby SG after directly comparing it to the Ibanez RG.

However, usually "fastness" has less to do with the thickness or radius of the neck, but with the material. Harder woods usually resonate quicker. LEss mass is also quicker, therefore thin maple necks or those with walnut between them are more quick to react to your playing.

That said you can always - and will often - encounter good wood on higherpriced instruments which will often be much more responsive than lets say the "lame" mahagony neck on a 300 pound low-budget LesPaul copy.

Many people think such features as a very flat neck, jumbo frets or scalloped neck makes a neck faster for playing. THis is only half-true or not even at all. In fact such features make techniques easier often associated with high-speed shredding: tapping,legatos etc.

So don't confuse "fast neck" with the ability to play fast; it's more how quick the neck reacts to your playing and how fast notes jump of the fretboard.

Personally I think the two most important factors for a fast attack - Is a good hard pick, and an ebony fretboard.

No other wood gives you as sharp an attack - And personally, I feel in terms of shred - Nothing can replace a good ebony board in terms of clarity.

Antag · « **Reply #26 on:** March 16, 2008, 11:47:07 AM »

Jackson necks for me :)

Either of their main profiles - the "Tranditional Charvel" (I think they call it the "Standard" these days) or the "Speed Neck" - are equally good for me. There's not a huge amount of difference in thickness, both have that really comfortable flat-backed "U" shape, a 12-16 compound radius, flawless finish & fretwork, with nice tall (usually 6000) frets.

I like the PRS Wide/Thin, Gibson 60s (when the frets haven't been installed blindfolded :roll:), Warmoth Std Thin amongst others, but Jackson necks feel to me a cut above everyone else's.

Don't like Ibanez - the straight 16" (& sometimes 17") radius is too flat for comfortable chording & arpeggios on the lower frets. JMO, YMMV etc...

Antag · « **Reply #27 on:** March 16, 2008, 11:52:13 AM »

Also, I agree with PhillyQ - if you find the neck comfortable, you will play better & faster.

So my preference or Jackson necks is all about comfort, I'm sure some players could play faster on a levelled-off telegraph pole...

nfe · « **Reply #28 on:** March 16, 2008, 03:48:27 PM »

I'm quite surprised to see PRS necks getting a mention, I think they're a lot like playing something you bought in Argos for 30 quid.

My Parker Fly Classic is probably the "fastest" neck I've played, which is why it remains my go to guitar for metal, even though I have since bought dearer guitars specifically for that purpose :lol: :roll:

MrBump · « **Reply #29 on:** March 16, 2008, 05:46:51 PM »

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Charvel necks are stunningly perfect for me

Yeah, my Charvel is pretty slick, although it's not Ibanez thin. In fact, I don't think that it's as comfortable as the Ibanez' machines that I've played.

I think it's a lot more to do with other things, as already mentioned earlier. Back in the '80s it seemed that people believed that the thinner the neck the greater the speed, but this clearly isn't the case. Probably due to the ultra thin Ibanez guitars and the shred-endorsees.

Comfortable neck, low action, decent picking technique and (believe it or not) fast fingers. I think that's what it takes.

Not that I can do it...