drum mixing questions. compression & EQ

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just wondering what compression & eq settings you guys would recommend as a general guideline for making drums sound that bit more metal.

Im using Drum kit from hell

i have everything exported to different tracks so i can now freely EQ each part of the kit.

Ideally the kind of sound im wanting to go for is something similar to metallicas justice album

but the snare needs to have that bit more oomph.

ezdrumemrs snares are a bit lacking if you ask me.....

[gingataff]

I'm by no means any kind of expert on this subject, but if you haven't already done so, I'd recommend the Andy Sneap forum. Those guys really know their stuff.
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap-151/

As for the Metallica drum sound, I think I read over there that it's a very hard sound to replicate but the closest you'll get is using Steven Slate drum samples and load them into DFH. They are already EQ'd and comp'd and sound pretty good.
http://www.stevenslatedrums.com/
 
There's also a guy called Slipperman who has made online tutorials for audio engineering but he tends to go on a rant about bad engineer's and musicians instead of actually telling you how to do the work. It's entertaining anyway.
http://www.badmuckingfastard.com/sound/slipperman.html#room

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damn those steven slate drums are expensive.

ill check out the other links tomorrow.

cheers for the links :D

[jibidy]

For metal drums you may want to try gating aswell if youve close mic'd a kit.

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For metal drums you may want to try gating aswell if youve close mic'd a kit.

well im just using the ezdrummer sampler so i have no idea how close mic'd the kit was

[maxingwell]

I use dfh too and as much as I hate to admit it, I use loads of compression, eq, gating, limiting etc... I think a lot of people use the waves plugins as well like the l2/c4 (I think?) to get better sounds. It takes quite a lot of work to get good sounds from dfh but its worth just playin around with various plugins to find a sound you like.

[jibidy]

I dont know what EZdrummer is. Ive heard of it though.
I wouldnt imagine you need to do much to it if they are samples. Just EQing really. try not to focus on getting a great drum sound without the rest of the music playing because it will probably change alot when you put it altogether.

[maxingwell]

try not to focus on getting a great drum sound without the rest of the music playing because it will probably change alot when you put it altogether.

Very good advice :D
You can waste hours getting a killer drum sound on its own which ends up sounding rubbish with the rest of the song!

[YellowMatter]

Hi guys, found this in a search.  This is Joel from StevenSlateDrums

The Metallica drum sound is VERY unique and is not going to be easy to get with regular drum sounds.  

Steven Slate authentically modeled the Metallica Black album kit including the ambience... its available for Drumagog, Kontakt, and soon BFD2.  You can hear how close it is by listening:

www.stevenslatedrums.com/demo2/METALLICA3.wav

The Metallica kit is available on the more moderately priced LE package.  Email me for any questions, thanks,

Joel
www.stevenslatedrums.com