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kellar

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« on: April 11, 2008, 03:16:12 PM »
Hey guys,

I was just wondering what some of you guys who play blues style guitar set your EQ at. I have been messing around with mine trying to get a better blues tone and thought it might be interesting to know what kind of settings others may be using to get that typical Les Paul blues feel.
I have lowered my low end, upped the mids and then backed down a bit on the high end. Basically it looks like a wave with the highs ending a bit higher than where the lows start.  
I understand this varies greatly upon the setup and why you may or may not be needing an EQ but I was just interested.
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2008, 03:55:16 PM »
some sort of ancedotal stuff about EQ, sorry for rambling

i use a marshall master volume. the bass is set low - between 1 -> 3, i have my mids boosted a bit - something like 6 usually. then i set the treble and presence depending on my guitar.

its not really a 'process' or anything, but now i'm rather used to my rig, and i know this is likely to get the sort of tone i want. i wouldn't say i like a bright tone as such, but one which is pretty bass starved at least. i suppose you could describe the tone as typical highish gain marshall with not much bass. nothing special at all.

i use a modded boss ge-7 as a booster regularly. i start by setting my amp so it sounds good, and setting the pedal flat. then i use the gain control as something like a clean boost, and it turn it up quite high. when i notice a frequency range is becoming unpleasant - for example nasty high end, or too strong bass, then i take it out on the eq pedal. i'll usually end up boosting the lower mids abit - i know it sounds *so* good on my amp.

now that i'm using NOS mullards and BKPs the EQ i set on the pedal is becoming flatter - but enventually i'll have to make tweaks as i boost the gain. in the old days when i used JJ valves and guitars without BKPs i'd have to set the EQ more radically. it was a really 'fixer' for all kinds of tonal problems. i'll usually take the lowest bass band on the pedal completely out, and the second bass band is pretty low too. if the treble gets harsh, i can easily roll off the highs.

i surprised more people on here don't use an EQ pedal. i'm pretty addicted to mine. i don't need a great number of bands, but its good to have someting quiet which is transparent.
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2008, 04:01:37 PM »
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i['m] surprised more people on here don't use an EQ pedal. i'm pretty addicted to mine. i don't need a great number of bands, but its good to have someting quiet which is transparent.

I'm not; I view additional EQ as the last resort to fix something wrong within a mix; I would never use one to alter my tone. Graphic EQs are oftentimes more damaging than helping. A parametric is the way to go if you decide you actually need one. (Funny enough, many high end bass amplifiers have parametric EQs, but guitar players are still infatuated with graphic EQs, be they on sliders or resistive potentiometers)

That being said, if you're gonna colour your tone with EQ, you can't get better than a Pultec. Those units are tremendous!

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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2008, 04:04:16 PM »
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i['m] surprised more people on here don't use an EQ pedal. i'm pretty addicted to mine. i don't need a great number of bands, but its good to have someting quiet which is transparent.

I'm not; I view additional EQ as the last resort to fix something wrong within a mix; I would never use one to alter my tone.


this is a good viewpoint.

its my background in electronic music coming through, and i strongly enjoy the versatility it gives me. i won't defend myself too much, but i love the combination of my JMP50 and that eq pedal.

and yes - i'd rather have something like a 3 band parametic than that graphic. hard to find one in a portable pedal unit though. i've searched many times.
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2008, 04:05:54 PM »
Oh, as far as blues go, I thought 'less is more' was their watchword.

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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2008, 04:08:51 PM »
touche :)

just to finish by saying - if someone uses something like a tube screamer, or other booster - they often cut the low end and boost the mids. the input buffering of such pedals often loses a bit of the high end also. i just like to have more control over that, and without the diode stage.
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2008, 04:11:56 PM »
I also like to use an eq pedal just to perfect the sound I'm going for. They also work great for solos by boosting the mids.
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2008, 04:12:17 PM »
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Oh, as far as blues go, I thought 'less is more' was their watchword.


Well said. That's the policy I normally go by but I was just curious. I have only recently bought an EQ and never needed one before so I was just interested.
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2008, 04:22:13 PM »
Twilight... As a result of this discussion, I have just brought a 3 band parametic EQ.
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2008, 04:46:05 PM »
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Twilight... As a result of this discussion, I have just brought a 3 band parametic EQ.

Not fair!

Which one did you buy?!!

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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2008, 04:54:33 PM »
ok... but *dont laugh*

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150233433027

i'm sure it will meet my soldering iron pretty quickly, but reviews are good by all accounts.

i've know for ages i needed/wanted a parametric - your comments made me think "dammit i WILL get one". the modded ge7 is a good booster pedal in my opinion though, maybe you can try it someday, and perhaps you might change your mind ;) (or probably not)
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2008, 05:18:55 PM »
Hmm, might work. I don't know how transparent those tiny pots are, though ...

I'll reserve judgment till you post your review!