Please help to find BKP analogs to Duncans and Dimarzios

[Peter Krasov]

Hi there!
I'm new to this forum, and new to Bare Knuckle pickups too. Though I've heard about them earlier, but just recentlly I have decided to try them. Hope I won't be disappointed.
All of my way I've been using both Seymour Duncan and DiMarzio pickups. I like them, but I want something real good, not just good.
So the question is: I got used to some SD's and Dimarzio PUPs and I want to find similar pickups in the Bare Knuckle catalog.
First I'll try to suppose, please correct me, whether I'm wrong.

1) Seymour Duncan Quarter Pound For Tele B&N, Seymour Duncan Hot For Tele B&N, Seymour Duncan Hot Rails For Tele = BK Piledriver?

2) Seymour Duncan Alnico II Pro Bridge = BK Stormy Monday Bridge?

3) Dimarzio Red Velvet = BK Irish Tour or BK Slow Hand?

4) DiMarzio Twang King Neck = BK Country Boy Neck?

Thanks

[badgermark]

This annoys me. Why don't you just use the Duncans or Dimarzios? Pickups are such a small part of the overall sound, maybe a tweak of the amp setting is what you need. I only use BKPs because they offer something tone-wise the others don't. Buy what you like the sound of, not cos of the handbuilt name.

[Jonny]

This annoys me. Why don't you just use the Duncans or Dimarzios? Pickups are such a small part of the overall sound, maybe a tweak of the amp setting is what you need. I only use BKPs because they offer something tone-wise the others don't. Buy what you like the sound of, not cos of the handbuilt name.

+1 it is rather annoying matching BKPs with Dimarzios, etc. why not just buy Dimarzios if you're looking for a comparison to them?

Not to lose sales for Tim, but I think it would be a "better feeling" if someone bought thinking:

JESUS POGO JUMPING CHRIST - THESE PICKUPS ARE THE DOGS BOLLOCKS!

Rather than:

Hey, they sound like EMGs. Might buy me a set. Which ones sound like 81s?

[Daniel G]

Not to lose sales for Tim, but I think it would be a "better feeling" if someone bought thinking:

JESUS POGO JUMPING CHRIST - THESE PICKUPS ARE THE DOGS BOLLOCKS!

Rather than:

Hey, they sound like EMGs. Might buy me a set. Which ones sound like 81s?

+1
That's the attitude i had when i got my MM's.
Was tired of sterile EMG and needed something that did the scooped tone well, and the MM's sounclips just made me go "f**k me, this sounds rad"

I don't mean to dissuade the OP from buying some bareknuckles, but if you want a Dimarzio tone, get Dimarzio's.
If you want something better, listen to the soundclips in the players forum, and/or ask Tim for some advice.
You won't be dissapointed.

[Lazy_McDoesnothing]

I see what you guys are saying but I disagree.  If all you've played is SD/Dimarzio then that's all you have to reference other pickups to.  He wants to try out BK and is just trying to figure out which BK is which.  He can find the right BK for him based on what he knows from his experience with SD/Dimarzio.  If others have the same experience and also have BK experience they can help him out.  He wants an improvement, which most here would agree that BK is.  It's daunting to come to this site and try to decide on which pickup to try since it's all very new so you talk about what you know and go from there.

I can see how it is "disrespectful" to ask about other manufacturers on the BK site, but he's simply asking which BK does which particular tones(ballpark).  

Peter, you may do better by describing in depth the tone you're looking for and the style you play for each pickup for recommendations.  You aren't going to burn in hell for speaking of "those-other-pickup-companies-who-must-not-be-named."

[Will]

I think its worth recomending what your style, guitars, and amp is.

What problems are you finding with certain models of other brands? That will help the people that have most types of BKP head you in the right direction.

Is the Hot rails a SC sized humbucker? If so, I don't know if its possible to compare any BKP to it, due to Tim only producing true single coils.

Anyway... the Stormy Monday is refferred to as the Slash sound, and he uses the A2, atleast I can answer part of it, but not through personal experience

[Simon D]

Not to lose sales for Tim, but I think it would be a "better feeling" if someone bought thinking:

JESUS POGO JUMPING CHRIST - THESE PICKUPS ARE THE DOGS BOLLOCKS!

Rather than:

Hey, they sound like EMGs. Might buy me a set. Which ones sound like 81s?

Totally agree with that statement. I bought my BKPs because they give 'that' sound - can't put it any better than that - it's just right.

However, go easy guys, we were all new here once.  

To the original poster - it's worth bearing in mind that BKPs aren't necessarily modeled after existing pickups. They're aimed at helping to nail a particular kind of sound or sounds. That's not to say they're one-trick ponies - they're not, but they aren't imitating other manufacturers' stuff either.

In terms of asking for advice: instead of comparisons to other makers' pickups, it might be better to talk in terms of the tone you want to achieve, as I've certainly found that tends to elicit some very helpful responses.

[Jonny]

When someone wants a BKP which sounds like another. I think they've already made their decision rather than need to ask what pickups to get.

[38thBeatle]

I can't answer the question but the traditional warm BKP welcome should at least be extended and therefore I would say welcome.

[Jonny]

I can't answer the question but the traditional warm BKP welcome should at least be extended and therefore I would say welcome.

Alas. I must admit. I was a bit rude.

Apologies Peter. Welcome to the forum.

[PhilKing]

I think that the first few replies here were very disrespectful of what is a basic inquiry.  There are many people who want to know which BK to get and without going through the players pages and reams of other questions, they can only ask in reference to sounds that they know.  I see nothing wrong with the questions, and other than the fact that I have very little experience of DiMarzio pickups (and then only in the 70's), would be happy to answer.

There is no real BK version of a 'rails' pickup as Tim doesn't like the sound of single coil humbuckers (I am with him all the way on this too).  I have put a JB jnr in a tele for someone, and so do know the sound of that, but the rails are a bit more driving I believe.  A Piledriver is a great 'Broadcaster' sound, but is still a single coil pickup.  If you could explain the sound you want (with some artists or tracks), then it will help to get closer.

For the Alnico II, you are spot on, a Stormy Monday with A2 magnets will get you there (and a lot further too).

Once again, if you can come up with some tracks, then we can give you more idea of what will work.

[Simon D]

I'm not sure if you're referring to my post or not Phil, but if you are, I offer my apologies to Peter and all concerned. No disrespect was intended. I always found this forum to be very welcoming when I was new here, and I'm sorry if I haven't extended the same courtesy to someone else.

[noodleplugerine]

In the space of an hour this thread has gone:

Meet.
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Hug.

How the hell did that happen?

[Philly Q]

In the space of an hour this thread has gone:

Meet.
Argue.
Attack.
Make up.
Hug.

How the hell did that happen?

Well, it should never have gone through stages 2 and 3, then stages 4 and 5 would've been unnecessary.

Except for those who are into gratuitous hugging.  :|

[noodleplugerine]

In the space of an hour this thread has gone:

Meet.
Argue.
Attack.
Make up.
Hug.

How the hell did that happen?

Well, it should never have gone through stages 2 and 3, then stages 4 and 5 would've been unnecessary.

Except for those who are into gratuitous hugging.  :|

*Hug*