Author Topic: ...second thoughts (Read 6669 times)

varkunus · « **on:** May 27, 2008, 08:26:33 PM »

Hey there again. Well as some of you have proberly seen i was pretty set on getting the ibanez rg1570, but i just saw the jackson sl3. Now i was just wondering which of these guitar you woudl think is better bearing in mind im LEFTY, play anything really from t-rex to megadeth to george benson to garry moore to sabbath. So i need something which is versatile. And why is the sl3 so much cheaper than the other soloists? I assume its cause its not made in the USA. Anyway which has the better trem. Im not to bothered about pickups cause i will almost certainly swap them out for bareknuckles anyway and and proberly make the middle single coil, and the neck maybe minibucker. Im thinking maybe the jackson would be more suited providing i could get a good humbucker and single coil sound out of neck. Anyway ill leave it to you guys on this, also any other good guitars in that pricerange which are availible in lefty in the UK (can order online)

yeah i know i need to play them, but im lefty so its very hard to try any floyd rose guitar. Secondly i live on the isle of wight so i have to pay £80 for each ferry crossing, and if i find the guitar i like there but dont know if the trems good then without the help of UG i could end up wasting almost a £1k. So I am really exploring every possibly avenue i can think off.

So... so far you guys are saying the ibby trem is better? And what about neck through, i gather that it will give more sustain, but what about action/playability and the rest of it? Also is basswood any good for classic rock or would the alder in the jackson be more suited
just reading some more reviews on the jacksound do you think the HSS would offer more versatility than the HSH. And everyone is saying the neck plays like butter, and its sustains like a beast. If the tremelo was up to scratch is routed so i could put a floyd in at a later date?

MDV · « **Reply #1 on:** May 27, 2008, 08:34:01 PM »

I'd take the SL3 personally.

Most of thats down to taste, though. Some of it is down to the maple thru: yes, its gonna be trebly, but you can be sure of good vibration transmision (and select pickups to taste afterwards). Ibanez on the other hand are making some really nice guitars these days, but a mate of mine just got a 2570 that let the side down: the bolt on wasnt good contact at all (to be fair though, most ibanezes I've seen lately have been very good in that regard, but beware; the QC isnt quite as on the ball as it was back in the day (like, '87 ;))

They both have liscenced trems. Jacksons can be pretty good, but the consensus is that Edge trems are better. The Edge pro on the Ibanez is probably gonna take it, but you'd have to wait till someone like Dave chips in that actually really cares enough about trems to have a well informed opinion (I block mine).

warpthrone · « **Reply #2 on:** May 27, 2008, 09:08:15 PM »

I would go for the Ibanez, simply becouse i'm bias.
I love Ibanez, best guitars I ever played for metal.
But it really does come down to personal taste.

dave_mc · « **Reply #3 on:** May 27, 2008, 09:53:53 PM »

That sl3 has an OFR now, mark, I think.

I'd say it's pretty close... they're both nice guitars. I'd probably go with the sl3 too (but that's because i already have an HSH bolt-on ibanez rg!), but they're pretty similar in terms of quality. the sl3 doesn't come with a case either, but then does come with nicer pickups, and neck-thru (which isn't "better", but tends to be more expensive).

difficult choice, to be honest. on the one hand, i guess that means it's hard to go wrong with either, but the flipside is whichever you get you might always wish you'd got the other...

varkunus · « **Reply #4 on:** May 28, 2008, 12:09:31 AM »

well im not a full out metal head so need something versatile. And ive heard rumours that bass wood can sound somewhat flat in a vintage toned environment. Anyway i know necks and stuff are personal preference so im just gona have to try them out as best i can. But i will replace whichever one i get with BKs. So which has the best trem? And to person who said the SL3s now come with OFRs, linky please...

varkunus · « **Reply #5 on:** May 28, 2008, 12:15:20 AM »

also whats the advantages off neck thru over bolt on? Im aware that neck through gives better sustain, but am unaware of how it afffects the tone. Although i was under the impression that bolt on are more trebly. Also bolt ones can be replaced alot more easily. Anyway im confused... help!

varkunus · « **Reply #6 on:** May 28, 2008, 12:19:00 AM »

Here it says its a Floyd Rose FRT-O2000 tremolohttp://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Jackson-SL3-Soloist-Electric-Guitar?sku=512237

Also how does it compare to the SL1, both specification wise, and playability wise (hope someone here has played both)

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #7 on:** May 28, 2008, 12:24:25 AM »

I'm pretty sure it doesn't come with an OFR, but its a Japanese jackson if I remember right, and generally not a bad guitar.

Personally I thought it felt too plasticy, and wasn't that impressed, I much prefer the LTD MH1000 for around the same price, which does come with an OFR.

Between that and the Ibanez, I'd go for the Nez, even though I don't like them, a lesser of two evils situation.

Jonny · « **Reply #8 on:** May 28, 2008, 12:33:55 AM »

Quote from: noodleplugerine

I'm pretty sure it doesn't come with an OFR, but its a Japanese jackson if I remember right, and generally not a bad guitar.

Personally I thought it felt too plasticy, and wasn't that impressed, I much prefer the LTD MH1000 for around the same price, which does come with an OFR.

Between that and the Ibanez, I'd go for the Nez, even though I don't like them, a lesser of two evils situation.

Don't think Paul, himself, does. However that doesn't make PRS PS any worse off. Far from it.

varkunus · « **Reply #9 on:** May 28, 2008, 12:34:25 AM »

Like i said if anyone else has better solutions post em here.

The reviews dont sound good in comparision to the nez!! http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar/product/Jackson/SL3/10/1

varkunus · « **Reply #10 on:** May 28, 2008, 12:37:15 AM »

btw i dont think that LTD comes lefty

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #11 on:** May 28, 2008, 01:08:22 AM »

Quote from: Jonny

Quote from: noodleplugerine
I'm pretty sure it doesn't come with an OFR, but its a Japanese jackson if I remember right, and generally not a bad guitar.

Personally I thought it felt too plasticy, and wasn't that impressed, I much prefer the LTD MH1000 for around the same price, which does come with an OFR.

Between that and the Ibanez, I'd go for the Nez, even though I don't like them, a lesser of two evils situation.

Don't think Paul, himself, does. However that doesn't make PRS PS any worse off. Far from it.

I think some of them he does actually, I doubt he does it often, but it wouldn't suprise me if he popped into the workshop from time to time, he seems to like to get his hands dirty.

varkunus · « **Reply #12 on:** May 28, 2008, 01:15:57 AM »

paul? whos he!

Anyway back on topic please guys this is doing my "nut" in

Jonny · « **Reply #13 on:** May 28, 2008, 09:19:06 AM »

Quote from: varkunus

paul? whos he!

Anyway back on topic please guys this is doing my "nut" in

Paul Reed Smith of.. Paul Reed Smith Guitars. :lol:

I would go for the Jackson (I'm an Ibanez fan) because I don't see an RG1570 playing any George Benson, Sabbath, etc. I can't imagine it'll sound good with basswood (I think that's the wood of the guitar, isn't it?)

Although it has an Edge, nice neck joint and decent QC (although look out for what Mark said) I would still go for the Jackson. LFR trems are really like 'the one you got is shite, or it's good', quality doesn't really follow the guitar brand, rather just the product.

Plus I think the single neck could give a little leeway towards your versatility.

However, it is more expensive. But if you can afford either - the Jackson.

Hope that helps.

varkunus · « **Reply #14 on:** May 28, 2008, 10:06:38 AM »

well i was looking around and it turns out the trem on the jackson is an OFR. Not only have people emailed floyd rose, but also people who own it say it has OFR stamped on the trem.

Anyway in comparision to the USA SL1 how does it compare, and how will a rose wood an ebony freboard differ