Author Topic: Self Build Tele Quandary (Read 5916 times)

kevincurtis · « **Reply #15 on:** June 04, 2008, 09:29:53 AM »

Quote from: WezV

this is a nice easy one to fit (3 screw holes):
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailpieces/Electric_guitar,_non-trem_bridges/Schaller_Non-tremolo_Roller_Bridges.html

This is more or less the same model as on my hardtail strat, and its a bridge I am very happy with, but I was thinking of something a bit chunkier, or even a wrap around PRS SE style (although I don't want anything that will be a bugger to fit!).

The back is routed for a standard tele control layout with jack socket - it's just the bridge that hasn't been done.

Colour wise - I hadn't considered orange/red but that would complement my lemon drop Edwards. I am currently thinking more blue/purple...but it does have to be a stain cos I would make a pretty poor hash of spraying I fancy!

Cheers

Philly Q · « **Reply #16 on:** June 04, 2008, 11:02:29 AM »

Quote from: kevincurtis

or even a wrap around PRS SE style (although I don't want anything that will be a bugger to fit!).

Problem with that would be the height of the bridge - you'd probably need to shim the neck to give it a bit of an angle. Unless you recess the bridge or can live with a very high action!

Also might be tricky to drill the holes for the bridge studs in exactly the right place (but Wez or Jonathan might be able to help with that?).

MDV · « **Reply #17 on:** June 04, 2008, 11:41:02 AM »

If you go for a wrap around (which, all told, is a very good idea), then for the love of god make sure its intonatable. Most PRS ones arent (and my dear lord how that grinds my gears

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Philly Q · « **Reply #18 on:** June 04, 2008, 12:18:30 PM »

Quote from: MDV

If you go for a wrap around (which, all told, is a very good idea), then for the love of god make sure its intonatable. Most PRS ones arent (and my dear lord how that grinds my gears )

:twisted: Nah, one-piece bridges rule! In fact I'm going to take the intonatable Pigtail bridge off my Edwards and replace it with an aluminium stop bar.

If the lack of intonation adjustment is a problem, I recommend some time not practising, to make your technique sloppier, then you'll never notice the difference.

(But seriously, the PRS bridge works fine with 9s or 10s IMO, it's probably not good with heavier strings because you need more "travel" on the saddles to get the intonation right. I think.)

MDV · « **Reply #19 on:** June 04, 2008, 12:29:08 PM »

I too love one piece bridges. My all time favourite bridge is the schaller 456, closely followed by the 455.

But you basically have to set the intonation all strings at once with the action, forcing you to have one particular action if you want your guitar to sound in tune. And its never quite bloody right. Grinds my gears, I tell you!!

Philly Q · « **Reply #20 on:** June 04, 2008, 12:52:07 PM »

Quote from: MDV

I too love one piece bridges. My all time favourite bridge is the schaller 456, closely followed by the 455.

That's not a one-piece bridge! The 456 has at least 28 pieces, probably 40 or more but I can't remember how the fine-tuners work. :P

Mind you, my "one-piece" is actually 3 pieces I suppose - the bridge and 2 grub screws. That's not including the mounting studs.

MDV · « **Reply #21 on:** June 04, 2008, 01:02:08 PM »

You know what I mean!

kevincurtis · « **Reply #22 on:** June 04, 2008, 01:05:28 PM »

OK, OK...settle down at the back there ;) if it doesn't have individual intonation then that would be a downside (I'm also thinking of having a go with an earvana nut), also individual string height would be a slight concern..and now that I have done some more detailed research it seems that is as rare as a certain breed of horses effluent...so maybe I should go with what I already know (the schaller) and get on with quite happily... but you know how it is...always want to try something new/different!

MDV · « **Reply #23 on:** June 04, 2008, 01:10:27 PM »

Quote from: MDV

I too love one piece bridges. My all time favourite bridge is the schaller 456, closely followed by the 455.

But you basically have to set the intonation all strings at once with the action, forcing you to have one particular action if you want your guitar to sound in tune. And its never quite bloody right. Grinds my gears, I tell you!!

Oh, that there second paragraph refers to the cursed in-intonatables, damn their hides *spits on floor*. Not the schallers. The schallers are fully intonatable, bless their cotton socks.

kevincurtis · « **Reply #24 on:** June 04, 2008, 01:13:39 PM »

Quote from: MDV

Oh, that there second paragraph refers to the cursed in-intonatables, damn their hides *spits on floor*. Not the schallers. The schallers are fully intonatable, bless their cotton socks.

So ..reading between the lines...you're not so keen on 'non individual intonation' (there must be a proper word for it?! :? ) bridges :)

Philly Q · « **Reply #25 on:** June 04, 2008, 01:19:30 PM »

Leaving aside the winding-up

, I'll go back to my earlier point about bridge heights and neck angles.

I think you'd be best off with a low-profile bridge like the ones Wez mentioned, or a Strat-style hardtail if you're confident about drilling through the body.

The Hipshot hardtail is nice:
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailpieces/Electric_guitar,_non-trem_bridges/Hipshot_Hardtail_Bridge.html

Or the Gotoh:
http://www.wdmusic.co.uk/product/GOTOH_FIXED_BRIDGE_6_SADDLES_CHROME_GTC102C

MDV · « **Reply #26 on:** June 04, 2008, 01:25:28 PM »

Quote from: kevincurtis

Quote from: MDV

Oh, that there second paragraph refers to the cursed in-intonatables, damn their hides *spits on floor*. Not the schallers. The schallers are fully intonatable, bless their cotton socks.

So ..reading between the lines...you're not so keen on 'non individual intonation' (there must be a proper word for it?! :? ) bridges :)

Exactly. And niether should you be damnit!!!!

kevincurtis · « **Reply #27 on:** June 04, 2008, 01:35:25 PM »

Quote from: MDV

Exactly. And niether should you be damnit!!!!

I'm not, I'm not..honest! :)

Quote from: Philly Q

I think you'd be best off with a low-profile bridge like the ones Wez mentioned, or a Strat-style hardtail if you're confident about drilling through the body.

The Hipshot hardtail is nice:
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailpieces/Electric_guitar,_non-trem_bridges/Hipshot_Hardtail_Bridge.html

I do like the look of the Hipshot - I'm gonna regret saying this..but how hard can it be to drill 6 holes through a guitar..I could oversize them to make sure the string is clear and allow for slightly innacurate drilling...

MDV · « **Reply #28 on:** June 04, 2008, 01:37:57 PM »

Quote from: kevincurtis

Quote from: MDV

Exactly. And niether should you be damnit!!!!

I'm not, I'm not..honest! :)

Quote from: Philly Q

I think you'd be best off with a low-profile bridge like the ones Wez mentioned, or a Strat-style hardtail if you're confident about drilling through the body.

The Hipshot hardtail is nice:
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailpieces/Electric_guitar,_non-trem_bridges/Hipshot_Hardtail_Bridge.html

I do like the look of the Hipshot - I'm gonna regret saying this..but how hard can it be to drill 6 holes through a guitar..I could oversize them to make sure the string is clear and allow for slightly innacurate drilling...

Good :D

And the proper name for non-individually intonatable bridges is "Anti-musical shitee" :shock: :shock:

Technical term, that.

PhilKing · « **Reply #29 on:** June 04, 2008, 01:42:58 PM »

Quote from: kevincurtis

[I do like the look of the Hipshot - I'm gonna regret saying this..but how hard can it be to drill 6 holes through a guitar..I could oversize them to make sure the string is clear and allow for slightly innacurate drilling...

If you don't have a drill press it can make a real mess. You need to have the holes at right angles to the body and all spaced correctly. Then you also need to know which type of ferrules you are going to use on the back, as the holes need to be different diameters for different ones.