Author Topic: NGD!! (Read 13238 times)

dave_mc · « **Reply #15 on:** June 09, 2008, 08:40:18 PM »

i think in the USA the gotoh is more expensive. plus he switched to the gotoh because he thought it's better than the ofr.

http://www.suhrguitars.com/bridges.aspx (about half-way down)

Simon D · « **Reply #16 on:** June 09, 2008, 08:48:45 PM »

I'm not a Floyd man, but I bloody love that! What a gorgeous guitar - stunning!

Lew · « **Reply #17 on:** June 09, 2008, 08:55:46 PM »

What Dave said, John Suhr posted this over on HRI.

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Question: This question is mainly for Mr Tyler and Mr Suhr but all opinions wanted ! In fitting and repairing locking tremolos since they came out, I've found the original Floyd to have deteriorated in quality to such a point that I want a better option …. And I think the Gotoh is it at the moment. The saddles and the locking nuts are a lot harder than the original Floyd’s are now, and I wondered why it is not on more guitars as OEM particularly as the price is also good.

Suhr: Gotoh is good and I will probably switch soon since the Floyds are really being made like ASS. We spend at least an extra hour on every Floyd bridge fixing things. Since both Schallers died it has been downhill from there I built some other companies guitar with the Gotoh and they seemed very consistent and well made.

Follow up Question: What are some of the issues you're seeing with the new Original Floyds ?

Suhr: You have a few days ?

•   Sometimes the back of the saddle is too tall preventing the fine tuner from having a full range of motion.
•   The way the string leaves the saddle it does not have a firm break off point, the string slides around in the saddle. This changes the intonation, buzzes and can just sound bad. We have to get a detail Dremel bit and re-contour the saddle with magnifiers on to see what we are doing. We have to do this on them all !
•   Fine tuners pinched too course and are rough many times.
•   Saddle heights can be uneven, requiring regrinding or shimming.
•   Roll away at nut not correct making the string not leave the nut edge where it is supposed to leave. This also screws with intonation and the strings can buzz when played open.
•   Casting bumps in the nut slots which have to be ground off, maybe one out of five.
•   Saddle to rear section of the saddle is sloppy, this cause string buzz, saddle pin has to be removed and saddle pinched to tighten it up.
•   Hold plates that hold the blocks up are not pushed up far enough so sometimes the screw pin doesn’t align up with the hole in the block and you wind up cracking the block.
•   Sometimes the arms start to wiggle and there isn’t much you can do since the cap on top is snug.

I'm sure there are a few other things I'm leaving out ....

They are a pain, I wish Kahler would make Floyds again I have no idea what is stopping them since the patent has run out.

one man's meat/pinch of salt etc... 8)

I'd be interested in Jonathan and Wez's opinion, in my experience execution is key.

dave_mc · « **Reply #18 on:** June 09, 2008, 09:12:30 PM »

I don't want to put words in his mouth, but i know that bob @ legra advised me to go with a gotoh floyd for my custom build. I've tried the OFR and Schaller in shops, but obviously that's not a long enough test to truly tell how good they are.

Thanks for the John Suhr post, that's very interesting. :)

Jonny · « **Reply #19 on:** June 09, 2008, 09:48:10 PM »

From reading that he sounds like a great guy. Anyone who says "Floyds are really being made like ASS" has to be a great guy.

I feel like quoting him.

Philly Q · « **Reply #20 on:** June 09, 2008, 10:10:44 PM »

Quote from: Lew

What Dave said, John Suhr posted this over on HRI.

Very interesting. And when he goes into such detail you can tell he's not merely slagging off the OFR to justify the choice of Gotoh.

AngusYoung01 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 09, 2008, 10:46:46 PM »

Quote from: Lew

I could always get a see through pickguard made :lol:

Do that.

Then sell the guitar to me :twisted:

Afghan Dave · « **Reply #22 on:** June 09, 2008, 11:29:46 PM »

That is one gorgeous guitar you have there - I LIKE the pickguard!

Lew · « **Reply #23 on:** June 10, 2008, 02:44:22 AM »

One more ;P

Lazy_McDoesnothing · « **Reply #24 on:** June 10, 2008, 03:08:25 AM »

OMG...really really want!

I'm curious how it would look with a black pickguard. When you get it take a pic with the 'guard off. :D

opprobrium_9 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 10, 2008, 03:30:34 AM »

Quote from: Lew

One more ;P

For some reason it looks nice with the white pickguard from this angle

Fikealox · « **Reply #26 on:** June 10, 2008, 03:55:35 AM »

That thing is beyond nice :D

WezV · « **Reply #27 on:** June 10, 2008, 07:13:36 AM »

Quote from: Lew

I'd be interested in Jonathan and Wez's opinion, in my experience execution is key.

i havnt used enough to say much about it... but the gotoh is a great unit!!

people seem to think all licensed FR's are bad .... not true in this case

indysmith · « **Reply #28 on:** June 10, 2008, 10:12:00 AM »

i like the white pickguard. Keep it!
I don't believe you'd buy it without playing it first though!

EDIT: It's made of basswood you say? I'd have DEFINITELY played it before buying. :?

Lew · « **Reply #29 on:** June 10, 2008, 11:34:08 AM »

I've owned a couple of Suhr's in the past, they can have faults/issues(I had one with a few)but playing well isn't one of them.
It's the same neck specs that was on my last Suhr and they are plek'd so I know what I'm in for 8)

Basswood with a maple cap is the tone, EVH's tone on carnal knowledge is a great example, Petrucci's recent stuff is another :D

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Basswood Back / Quilt or Flame Maple Top – Okay, this may be the Holy Grail of tone. The Basswood response is extended by a 3/16" Maple top adding more clarity and grind to the fatness of the Basswood, this combination is our favorite!

http://www.suhrguitars.com/wood.aspx