NGD!!

[Nolly]

Beautiful guitar. And there ain't nowt wrong with Basswood.

[Lew]

oh aparently the bridge pickup is not what I thought it was, it's alnico and it has a 17.5k output  :o

[blue]

that is a beautiful guitar.  i like the scratchplate, but i think a clear one might look even better! depends whether the guitar's front or back routed i suppose.

this talk of the OFR vs. Gotoh. does anyone know if the Gotoh will drop straight in as a replacement for an OFR?  that is, without having to change the pivot post bushings or anything?

[Jonny]

Beautiful guitar. And there ain't nowt wrong with Basswood.

+1

[dave_mc]

From reading that he sounds like a great guy. Anyone who says "Floyds are really being made like ASS" has to be a great guy.

I feel like quoting him.

that's what i thought.  :lol:

Very interesting.  And when he goes into such detail you can tell he's not merely slagging off the OFR to justify the choice of Gotoh.

my sarcasm detector's on the blink (and isn't guaranteed for internet forum work anyway- I don't think any are), philly, is this post serious or sarcastic? kinda hard to be sure which...

:)

people seem to think all licensed FR's are bad .... not true in this case

agreed. a licensed floyd you get on a £150 cheapo is probably made of papier mache, but something like a gotoh is a quality piece of kit.

:)

[dave_mc]

that is a beautiful guitar.  i like the scratchplate, but i think a clear one might look even better! depends whether the guitar's front or back routed i suppose.

this talk of the OFR vs. Gotoh. does anyone know if the Gotoh will drop straight in as a replacement for an OFR?  that is, without having to change the pivot post bushings or anything?

if you're interested, i can look into it, but i think, from memory, that the gotoh studs/bushings/whatever you call them are marginally larger than the floyd ones.

http://www.floydrose.com/pdf/Floyd%20Rose%20Original_(route%20pattern,%20top%20view)MM.pdf (suggests the radius is 5mm, i think, which means diameter 10mm- i could be wrong, though)

http://www.wdmusic.co.uk/pub/files/pdf/1190042346_GE1996T.pdf (diameter of gotoh studs 11.3mm)

better check those links yourself, though, as i could be wrong. :)

[Jonny]

Dave's right, the Gotoh is slightly larger. But that's better than if the Gotoh were slightly smaller, in my opinion.

[Bob Johnson]

this talk of the OFR vs. Gotoh. does anyone know if the Gotoh will drop straight in as a replacement for an OFR?  that is, without having to change the pivot post bushings or anything?

The Gotoh bushings are a larger diameter than the OFR ones but since you already have the drillings in the body it's not a big deal to enlarge them. A pillar drill is best for this preferably with a Forstner bit since an ordinary twist bit will tend to bite into the sides of the existing hole making it hard to control particularly with a hand drill.

I'm sitting here with a big smile on my face at the moment contemplating all those past threads where I extolled the virtues of the Gotoh FR 2 over the OFR only to have my opinion impugned (that's the polite way of saying slagged off) by so many of you!!

Cheers,

[Bob Johnson]

PS to my last note: I don't know why but a lot of the Gotoh FR trems I've had lately have had a 41mm deep sustain block. If you have a 45mm thick (standard Strat-ish) with a recessed trem rout then the 41mm sustain block will be too deep and will protrude from the rear of the body. This is easily fixed by removing the 3 screws that hold the base plate to the sustain block and then taking 3 or 4mm off the top of the sustain block leaving the machining on the bottom of the block as it is. Of course the easiest answer is to try and locate the 37mm version.

Cheers,

[Philly Q]

Very interesting.  And when he goes into such detail you can tell he's not merely slagging off the OFR to justify the choice of Gotoh.

my sarcasm detector's on the blink (and isn't guaranteed for internet forum work anyway- I don't think any are), philly, is this post serious or sarcastic? kinda hard to be sure which...  :)

No, no sarcasm intended Dave, although I can see where you're coming from!  :lol: .  Maybe I spend too much time being sarcastic...

I've seen similar "and that's why we make it in China" explanations before, but I really don't think that's what John Suhr was doing!  He really does go into a lot of detail.  And that "Floyds are really being made like ASS" comment sounds far too genuine to be bullsh!t.

Besides, although I don't know anything about the Gotoh Floyd, I'm a big fan of their hardware generally.  :)

[dave_mc]

haha, thanks philly. I know what you mean, i was wary too as it could just have been an excuse to justify changing to the gotoh, but as you said, he does seem to go into too much detail for it to not at least have some truth in it. and you're right, any of the gotoh kit i've used has been excellent too (though i have the floyd as well).

:)

[MDV]

I'm tempted to advise the only one I havent tried, actually - the gotoh.

Reason being, Bob @ legra, who built my awesome number one guitar, was a mechanical engineer for ~20 years before lutier, and he says they're the best engineered.

It was in a thread in here a while ago (I've never wanted bob to put a trem in the guitar I have, or one I nearly got built, so it wasnt in private exchange). Alas, I dont remember it.

- Wrong thread. Its early. I'll copy it in the right thread.

[Gooby]

I am a little Green, Suhr's look awesome. Really good purchase thinks does I.


Martin  8)

[opprobrium_9]

I forgot about this beauty.  Good god that color is unbelievable.

[FELINEGUITARS]

I have used and enjoyed Gotoh Floyds a lot and I love them .
They are well made and have a few sensible design features of their own - the angled back fine tuners and how the arm tension is adjusted. It uses a hard steel plate for it's baseplate  and has good knife edges which is all good stuff.

Gotoh also used to make the Ibanez Edge tremolo I believe and that was a well made bit of kit

I have not had the same problems that have been mentioned with Original Floyd Roses, but maybe I have been lucky

I always say if it works great then it's good, and you often get what you pay for (not always in the same sentence)

As ever on the internet there is a lot of reiterating & repeating of one (or more) person's viewpoint by folks who maybe don't have a first hand opinion on the subject being discussed.