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snatchss454

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« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2008, 07:52:55 PM »
What is it about the Gibby you dont like? Is it the way it plays or is it that it doesnt have that vintage vibe? I just rewired my les paul with all new 50's style vintage wiring from Rsguitarworks and a new set of crawlers and its a totally different animal. Now the crawlers are hotter than old school PAF's but you could go with something different.
Im not a fender player at all but I think at some point Id like to have both in my arsenal.
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« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2008, 08:21:48 PM »
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Machinehead - surprised to hear that - I've had a couple of E series and found them to be better made than the USA ones that I've tried - if you can live with the vintage frets/trem that is


My experience with Strats is rather limited Mike.

I can certainly say that I find the Strat Plus I bought recently is miles better than the MIJ E serial Strat I had before. I aslo tried a couple of USA Strat Standards before I got the Plus and they seemed to be a whole lot better than the MIJ as well.

The MIJ Strat had a nice enough tone but the more I played it the less I liked it. It had a great neck but the fretboard was tough going, with a very pronounced convex arch, which made bar chords a chore.

It also meant the action had to higher than I would have liked, as bends higher up the board simply bottomed out due to the arch.

For the record the Strat Plus I got only has a slight convex arch and with a considerably higher grade of rosewood fretboard. Playing it is a lot easier than the MIJ and it basically sounds far better as well.

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« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2008, 11:15:30 PM »
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The MIJ Strat had a nice enough tone but the more I played it the less I liked it. It had a great neck but the fretboard was tough going, with a very pronounced convex arch, which made bar chords a chore.

It also meant the action had to higher than I would have liked, as bends higher up the board simply bottomed out due to the arch.

For the record the Strat Plus I got only has a slight convex arch and with a considerably higher grade of rosewood fretboard. Playing it is a lot easier than the MIJ and it basically sounds far better as well.

That's the difference between the 7.25" vintage radius and the 9.5" modern radius.  The bigger frets help a lot as well.  For me, the perfect fretboard radius is Fender's 9.5" or PRS's 10" - just the right curvature for comfortable chording, but flat enough to bend strings on.

Apart from the radius issue, I think MIJ Strats are just as well built as US ones, but I'm not sure the actual components are as good.  On the couple I had, the bridge and tuners felt a bit flimsy - almost like the metal was "softer" somehow.  And the Japanese electronics always need replacing.  So you have a guitar that's a brilliant starting-point for upgrades, rather than a really great guitar straight out of the box.

I may have simply not had the best examples - maybe there are more upmarket MIJ Fenders (or similar) with better quality Gotoh hardware.
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« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2008, 05:28:56 AM »
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Yep, don't go for the strat if you're not a strat man as they aren't that versatile, particularly the vintage spec ones so it would not be advisable to only really use that was your main guitar...


Mind you i would do it...!


Strats not versatile! You must be playing different ones to me...



I meant the vintage spec ones ie. usually with single coils. The reason i say this is because, for example, aside from all the usual  stuff a strat is not great at metal or jazz because it has such a distinctive bright sound whereas a Les Paul would be fine here. I would say that a Les Paul could do all a strat can do and more at a good level. Although, the strat does excel at some genres...


The heavey relics are more of a modern spec and most of them have a bridge humbucker.  At the end of the day a 1980 Les Paul Deluxe is, sorry about this, a cr@p guitar.  A 2007.2008 Custom Shop Fender is a fantastic guitar.  Just because ebay values may be slightly similar due to idiots who think they are buying 'vintage' doesn't make these guitars comparible.  Take the Strat, if you don't like it swap it for a post-2002 Les Paul Standard