Help - which BKP?

[Voltaire]

Hi all,

I really don't know what to buy:(

I want a pair of modern sounding humbuckers for hard rock and metal. I want a real heavy, deep, sinister sort of rhythm tone, something good for tight chugging palm mutes, nothing too harsh or digital sounding tho. For the lead I am looking for sort of organic creamy-ish tone, maybe more old scholl metal, edgy but not too edgy and with an organic and interesting sound, but still something from the dark side. I know this is a pretty "fluffy" description of requirements but hopefull it helps.

So, what should it be? MM, Nailbomb, Warpig, Ceramic Warpig, Painkiller, something else, some combo??:)

[il˙ti]

What's the guitar/amp? Sounds like you want a set of Alnico Warpigs, but in a les paul style guitar, a Holy Diver may be close to what you want.

[Simon D]

Hey there, welcome. One important consideration is the guitar you'll be fitting them to. It might be an idea to let people know what it is, because it will have an impact on what people will recommend.

Based on personal experience as a Warpig and previous Nailbomb player, I'd venture that a Nailbomb (in a Les Paul style guitar anyway) will give you the sound you're after. I think the Warpig might be a little to compressed for what you're looking for.

Hopefully people with experience of the other pickups you mention will chime in too.

[Voltaire]

Hey there, welcome. One important consideration is the guitar you'll be fitting them to. It might be an idea to let people know what it is, because it will have an impact on what people will recommend.

Based on personal experience as a Warpig and previous Nailbomb player, I'd venture that a Nailbomb (in a Les Paul style guitar anyway) will give you the sound you're after. I think the Warpig might be a little to compressed for what you're looking for.

Hopefully people with experience of the other pickups you mention will chime in too.

What's the guitar/amp? Sounds like you want a set of Alnico Warpigs, but in a les paul style guitar, a Holy Diver may be close to what you want.

Good points!

Well, it will either end up in a home grown Ultra-V with mahogany neck and body, or a home grown V with wenge body and neck, oth with ebony fretboards, but either way, a fairly heavy sounding guitar, more LP than Strat:)

The amp is an Orange Tiny Terror with PPC112, with a EHX Metal Muff when needed.

I guess til now I have been thinking probably Nailbomb, or maybe  Alnico Warpig, but I just read some good things about MM as well. And of course there are the sound clips but there are so many variables it is really hard to compare.

[MDV]

Probably a warpig from what I've heard thats applicable gain wise (pig, c-pig, MM, NB, PK).

But from the comparative descriptions and the clips where I know the gear pretty well - holy diver.

[hhcave]

I'd say ceramic MM in the bridge and a Nailbomb in the neck?

[Roobubba]

From the original post, I'd think the Miracle Man is just too clinical in the bridge. It sounds like a job for an AlNiCo pickup. Warpigs probably would fit the bill, but the interesting option of a holy diver also sounds quite reasonable. Not sure how that would go in a dark sounding guitar, though...

I know what I'd do:

Ask Tim!

Roo

[Antag]

I want a real heavy, deep, sinister sort of rhythm tone, something good for tight chugging palm mutes, nothing too harsh or digital sounding tho. For the lead I am looking for sort of organic creamy-ish tone, maybe more old scholl metal, edgy but not too edgy and with an organic and interesting sound, but still something from the dark side.

That description has Holy Diver written all over it, but I have almost no experience of Wenge so I'm not convinced.  Alnico Warpig would be a safe bet.

Agree with Roo that MM isn't the thing here, nor is teh Nailbomb IMO (probably too "edgy").

[carlaz]

I want a pair of modern sounding humbuckers for hard rock and metal. I want a real heavy, deep, sinister sort of rhythm tone, something good for tight chugging palm mutes, nothing too harsh or digital sounding tho. For the lead I am looking for sort of organic creamy-ish tone, maybe more old scholl metal, edgy but not too edgy and with an organic and interesting sound, but still something from the dark side. I know this is a pretty "fluffy" description of requirements but hopefull it helps.
So, what should it be? MM, Nailbomb, Warpig, Ceramic Warpig, Painkiller, something else, some combo??:)

I think the Warpig is too extreme for "hard rock and metal" tones (fun though it must be!), and the rest of your description says "non-ceramic" to me (well, mostly ....).  Honestly, the first thing that comes to my is the Crawler -- OK, I have 'em and I like them, but I think they fit the "hard rock or metal, good chug, dark but organic" bill quite well. For a bit higher gain (if I remember aright) and more metal vibe, the Holy Divers might do, too.

For a combo ... You could put a ceramic in the bridge, a COld Sweat or a Painkiller, and then something like an Abraxas neck.  Doesn't TO have guitars with a Cold Sweat/Abraxas combo, or have I hallucinated that?