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Gary

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« on: September 13, 2005, 02:43:51 PM »
I play in a covers band with the following rig:

Am Strat with BK Apaches -> Boss TU2 -> Keeley Compressor -> Boss CE5 Chorus (will probably change for an Analogman Clone Chorus soon) -> Fender HRDx (with stock 6L6 valves) ->THD Hotplate.

I use the 'More Drive' channel for lead but ignore the 'Drive' channel as I use the clean channel cranked up for overdrive.

I am very much in love with the sounds from this rig and it does most of our material perfectly (Sheryl Crow, Alanis Morisette, Cardigans, Blondie, Pretenders etc.) but I need something different for a couple of our numbers - Just Like A Pill by Pink (heavy chugging chords in the chorus) and Ready To Go by Republica (Loud, heavy sustaining chords). As we try to get a good turn over of material it is likely that I'll need these kind of sounds for other stuff as time goes by.

I've tried a Marshall Guv'nor which I quite liked but it's very noisy and doesn't sound a lot different to what I can already get. My options seem to be:

1. Get a distortion pedal (HBE Big D?). I've got very fussy about what goes on my pedal board so it will need to be able to do the job as well as being good quality. I've already thought of using my compressor but it doesn't really do what I'm after and I prefer to use it sparingly since it interferes with my ability to use the volume knob on the guitar.

2. Take my spare guitar (Squier Strat) which I use as a backup at gigs and fit a bridge humbucker or even a pair. The down side to this option is that I would probably also want to change the pick guard from the flimsy single ply one, get a new nut (which I think it needs anyway), change the machine heads and electrics. Once I'd spent all that money I would still be left with the cheap body even though it is a lovely colour - Fiesta Red. (BTW the neck is a very nice piece of figured maple with a rose wood board).

Your opinions/ alternative options please, especially if you are familiar with the above material.

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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2005, 03:15:14 PM »
I'd think of fitting a Sinner to your Squire, they can really chug!

You'll need to try the OD pedals, the H&K Tube Factor needs to be tried. Track down some of Ratrods clips and you can hear his!
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2005, 04:25:03 PM »
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I'd think of fitting a Sinner to your Squire, they can really chug!

You'll need to try the OD pedals, the H&K Tube Factor needs to be tried. Track down some of Ratrods clips and you can hear his!

 :D

The Tube Factor does Republica to the T. But you will need a beefier pickup than the Apache, I think.
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2005, 04:35:21 PM »
sell the squire and save up some and get a guitar with humbuckers!!!(epiphone LP?) yu could install a coil split cheaply, so if ur strat goes dead, and yu need a single coil sound, yu've got it (obviously not right on, but it'd do!!!). pickups on these are a bit rubbish, so over time yu might wanna replace them? I'd definately advise everyone to have a guitar with 'buckers and one with singlecoils! versatilityum.
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2005, 04:39:08 PM »
SEYMOUR DUNCAN PICKUP BOOSTER. i just remembered! that has a thing on it to make single coils sound like humbuckers!!! I'm sure it does. and if i remember rightly, it aint very expensive either.
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/effectsdescr.shtml#booster
there she is, i knew i wasn't imagining it!
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=9126
£85 bargain.
http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Seymour_Duncan/Pickup_Booster-1.html
not bad reviews either  8)
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2005, 06:51:07 PM »
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SEYMOUR DUNCAN PICKUP BOOSTER. i just remembered! that has a thing on it to make single coils sound like humbuckers!!! I'm sure it does. and if i remember rightly, it aint very expensive either.
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/effectsdescr.shtml#booster
there she is, i knew i wasn't imagining it!
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=9126
£85 bargain.
http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Seymour_Duncan/Pickup_Booster-1.html
not bad reviews either  8)


Q Ben with the Dos Mos!
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2005, 07:01:33 PM »
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Q Ben with the Dos Mos!


Q ben? is that an effect? *confused*
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2005, 09:46:19 PM »
Sinner in the bridge? Hmm, not sure - loved the clip, HJM, and it would be a fun thing to get but I'm not sure it would sound that way through my fender and I don't think another single coil is the way to go. Having said that it's probably cheaper than the other options.

Selling the Squier? - I would probably only get about £50 for it and it's worth a lot more to me as a reliable backup. I'd love to get a Les Paul but even a good copy would be far more expensive than any of the other options and I can't justify it at present.

Seymour Duncan pickup booster? Not convinced by that one. I've got a Java Boost which is very nice when I'm in the right mood - I know it's not exactly the same but I don't think I need another boost.

Ratrod - had a look at your clips but none of them seem to feature the H&K Tube factor with single coils. Any chance of one - especially as we have the same amp?

Steve, did I hear you say you were putting together a strat with humbuckers? How do you think that would sound with the cheaper body on the Squier?

TO, what do you think about the Big D with a strat and a fender amp?

Keep the ideas coming, guys. It's giving me plenty to think about.

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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2005, 10:35:25 PM »
have you tried the Sobbat Drive Breaker? I really really really want one, and they seem to sound awesome with single coil guitars, a really thick distortion. Samples here (its all in German, but in IE you can right click and translate. Even if you cant, the soundclips are at the bottom of the page):

http://www.tonetoys.de/de/DriveBreaker_1.html

chugtastic! :)
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2005, 11:11:58 PM »
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Quote from: indysmith
SEYMOUR DUNCAN PICKUP BOOSTER. i just remembered! that has a thing on it to make single coils sound like humbuckers!!! I'm sure it does. and if i remember rightly, it aint very expensive either.
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/effectsdescr.shtml#booster
there she is, i knew i wasn't imagining it!
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=9126
£85 bargain.
http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Seymour_Duncan/Pickup_Booster-1.html
not bad reviews either  8)


Q Ben with the Dos Mos!


No Ben is TO in New York! He has a Home Brew DOS MOS booster and says it's incredible. It gave him 'Godly Tone with his Big D and I'm gagging to hear it!
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2005, 11:22:54 PM »
You could try modding your strat with apaches in to make the middle and bridge run in series, this makes a streched bucker sound/ I have it on my IT equipped strat. That would be the cheapest option and should help you out. Or try booster pedals like the Super Hard On or Dos Mos
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2005, 07:56:01 AM »
Sinner + TubeFactor?
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2005, 06:22:36 PM »
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Ratrod - had a look at your clips but none of them seem to feature the H&K Tube factor with single coils. Any chance of one - especially as we have the same amp?


Sorry, I'm all out of single coil guitars.
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