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Re: 5 favourite guitarists
« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2008, 08:50:22 PM »
Page is overrated because he steals someone else's entire technique and composition (e.g. White Summer = She Moved Thro The Fair trad. arrangement by Davey Graham, e.g. Blackmountainside, = Blackwaterside trad. arrangement Bert Jansch, similar Janschisms on Going to California  e.g. countless Delta blues licks from old Mississippian's who only have become available in the CD/download era) and credits it to himself.

Still, you gotta love Plaigey - he is a absolutely stunning guitarist when he does his own thing and always puts great new twists into the stuff he nicks.

i.e. - not really overrated at all.
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Re: 5 favourite guitarists
« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2008, 09:07:42 PM »
I struggle with the "overrated" thing - how should we define overrated?

Is a player who's technically limited but writes great music overrated?  Personally I'd rather listen to someone like that than someone with technique up the ying-yang whose music sounds like a series of wanky practice exercises.  I couldn't give a sh!t about technical ability.
I agree with that. That's why I have Vai on my list of favourite guitar players, I love his compositions and his sense of melody and I would too if he never played a 16th note in his life. It seems like some people can't grasp that it's possible to like someone who happens to have great technical ability for anything other than technical ability. I'm not saying that's what you said, but I thought I'd bring it up before the whole "technique vs. song writing" argument breaks loose. I think Steve Vai and Jimi Hendrix are some of the best song writers of all time, and I think Cat Stevens is. It doesn't have to contrast each other.

I'd definite "overrated" as a person liked by many but not by me, making the person overrated in my opinion. That makes overratedness entirely subjective, as it should be.

Top 5 guitarists whose playing, style, and songwriting is liked by many but not by me:
Eric Clapton
Dimebag Darrel (while we're at it, yeah he had great technique but I never heard him play anything that impressed or inspired me)
Johnny Ramone
Angus Young
John Mayor

Kurt Cobain would be the obvious choice, but I actually like a few Nirvana songs ( :oops:). His playing and music is definitely overrated, but not as much as those guys ^ (IMO)
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Re: 5 favourite guitarists
« Reply #47 on: July 15, 2008, 09:22:38 PM »
Steve Vai
Shawn Lane
Devin Townsend
Robbern Ford
David Gilmour

Holy shite - How did I forget Shawn?
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Re: 5 favourite guitarists
« Reply #48 on: July 15, 2008, 09:26:14 PM »
Tony Iommi
Montalo (from Witchfynde)
Brian Tatler (from Diamond Head)
KK Downing
Pete Townshend

this list is possibly untrue, though these are the guys who have appeared in my mind right now.
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Re: 5 favourite guitarists
« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2008, 09:29:19 PM »
I struggle with the "overrated" thing - how should we define overrated?

Is a player who's technically limited but writes great music overrated?  Personally I'd rather listen to someone like that than someone with technique up the ying-yang whose music sounds like a series of wanky practice exercises.  I couldn't give a sh!t about technical ability.
I agree with that. But I'd definite "overrated" as a person liked by many but not by me, is in my opinion overrated. That makes overratedness subjective, as it should be.

That's fair enough - I can name people I don't like, but I wouldn't want to debate relative sloppiness of arpeggios or something.  :wink:
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Re: 5 favourite guitarists
« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2008, 09:30:50 PM »
Gary say's Joe Perry

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Re: 5 favourite guitarists
« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2008, 09:33:28 PM »
Gary say's Joe Perry

Favourite or overrated?
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Re: 5 favourite guitarists
« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2008, 09:37:54 PM »
Sorry as a great guitarist
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Re: 5 favourite guitarists
« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2008, 09:43:39 PM »
SGmypod said it, I just agreed!

Can I (horsehead)  just say EVH is over-rated & anybody that has been in Metallica



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Re: 5 favourite guitarists
« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2008, 09:49:24 PM »
Can I (horsehead)  just say EVH is over-rated & anybody that has been in Metallica
Ron McGovney is over-rated???!!

(sorry. and yes, you can say that)
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Re: 5 favourite guitarists
« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2008, 09:50:16 PM »
SGmypod said it, I just agreed!

Yeah, sorry, I thought you said "Gary says" to avoid flak for slagging off (or not, as it turned out) Joe Perry!  :wink:

See how confusing this thread has become?  :lol:
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Re: 5 favourite guitarists
« Reply #56 on: July 15, 2008, 09:51:04 PM »
Page is overrated because he steals someone else's entire technique and composition (e.g. White Summer = She Moved Thro The Fair trad. arrangement by Davey Graham, e.g. Blackmountainside, = Blackwaterside trad. arrangement Bert Jansch, similar Janschisms on Going to California  e.g. countless Delta blues licks from old Mississippian's who only have become available in the CD/download era) and credits it to himself.

Still, you gotta love Plaigey - he is a absolutely stunning guitarist when he does his own thing and always puts great new twists into the stuff he nicks.

i.e. - not really overrated at all.


Yeah, fair enough, that is a considerable downside to Page. In fact I recently found out one of my favourite riffs of 'his' is actually an old B.B King lick!

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Re: 5 favourite guitarists
« Reply #57 on: July 15, 2008, 10:04:01 PM »
Well, since Philly asked :)  and still no b*gger has mentioned Jeff or Hank...well apart from me of course!

1) EVH
2) Jeff Beck
3) Hank Marvin
4) Ritchie Blackmore
5) Michael Lee Firkins

Last one probably isn't actually in my top 5...but a great guitarist and something different in the instrumental stakes :)

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Re: 5 favourite guitarists
« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2008, 10:16:49 PM »
^Massive props for mentioning Firkins!
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Re: 5 favourite guitarists
« Reply #59 on: July 15, 2008, 11:20:17 PM »
my 5 are as follows:

Shawn Lane
Frank Zappa
Ron Thal (bumblefoot)
Jeff Beck
Joe Satriani

there are SO many more than 5 which makes it very difficult, I can think of 50 at least!
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