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Re: Neck doesn't fit body
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2008, 01:58:34 PM »
Wouldn't it be better just to sand, slowly, painfully, and carefully?
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Re: Neck doesn't fit body
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2008, 02:17:49 PM »
Wouldn't it be better just to sand, slowly, painfully, and carefully?

thats fine as long as you can add 'evenly' to the list

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Re: Neck doesn't fit body
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2008, 02:33:13 PM »
Wouldn't it be better just to sand, slowly, painfully, and carefully?

thats fine as long as you can add 'evenly' to the list

Ah... you won't be asking me to do it then, badgermark...
(or to borrow my chisel if you go for the other option!)

It's funny, I guess MrBump was making the same assumption as me - "I've probably got a better chance of a straight line with sanding, even if takes two weeks of doing it every night after work..."

But what you're saying Wez is "probably not" to that assumption then? And in fact a "slowly and carefully with the sandpaper" is more likely to cause a bog up? Certainly fits with my experience now I think about it :lol: Previously, I'd just assumed that something unspecified had "gone wrong" and put up with it...
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Re: Neck doesn't fit body
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2008, 03:12:34 PM »
sanding gets awkward in tight spaces like this.. i think that without being really carefull most people would end up widening the mouth of the pocket without removing much from the back

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Re: Neck doesn't fit body
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2008, 03:17:05 PM »
It's funny, I guess MrBump was making the same assumption as me - "I've probably got a better chance of a straight line with sanding, even if takes two weeks of doing it every night after work..."

But what you're saying Wez is "probably not" to that assumption then? And in fact a "slowly and carefully with the sandpaper" is more likely to cause a bog up? Certainly fits with my experience now I think about it :lol: Previously, I'd just assumed that something unspecified had "gone wrong" and put up with it...

Unless you're sanding with a block - which will be tricky in a neck pocket - it's very difficult to sand evenly.  If the paper just has your fingertips behind it, they're an extremely long way from being evenly shaped!

Sanding in a small, shallow space like a neck pocket, there's a natural tendency to sand more near the top edge and hardly at all at the bottom of the pocket - it's almost impossible not to do that.  So you end up with a neck that  correctly fits the bottom of the pocket but has a gap all round at the top!

A router's the best bet - if you can get one and you're comfortable using it.  Of course it's an extremely fine cut so don't try to do it freehand, use a template!  :P

(Edit: Wez replied before me, so this a bit of a redundant comment... )
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Re: Neck doesn't fit body
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2008, 09:46:36 PM »
where did you get the 'noname' neck from badger? any good?
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Re: Neck doesn't fit body
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2008, 10:08:08 PM »
Ebay- here is a link to the auction, it's not bad actually, feels pretty good. Straight and the frets are really well put in. Arrived the day after the shop posted too, result!
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Re: Neck doesn't fit body
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2008, 10:12:55 PM »
Of course it's an extremely fine cut so don't try to do it freehand, use a template!  :P

And use a cutter with a bearing as well to follow the template
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Re: Neck doesn't fit body
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2008, 04:21:57 PM »
This bugger wont fit. PLUS the bloody neck mounting screws just slot in, no bite at all. Makes me want to swear when things don't work out. Anyone want a strat type neck?
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Re: Neck doesn't fit body
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2008, 04:43:01 PM »
You could probably fix the no-bite thing with some splints and some glue...

Are you stil struggling to get enough wood off?
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Re: Neck doesn't fit body
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2008, 04:50:28 PM »
If the neck heel is unaffected I might take it off your hands - does it have a nut allready installed? Just need to measure my old strat bodies neck pocket. I know its a bit wider than standard fender.

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Re: Neck doesn't fit body
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2008, 05:09:50 PM »
I fixed my Tele neck by using some threaded steel inserts and machine screws instead of the normal wood screws (before and after below).

The holes were really badly stripped and chewed up though, you shouldn't need to do anything so extreme on your neck. 

The splints/toothpicks thing should work, or you could drop some bicarbonate of soda into the holes, followed by a few drops of superglue - in effect it lines the hole with a really hard filler, giving the screw something to grip.

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Re: Neck doesn't fit body
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2008, 05:17:22 PM »
We fix holes like this all the time
We cut hardwood dowels from maple using a plug cutter and then drill the existing hole bigger to accept the plug
Then glue in the plugs, trim them off and it is like starting with an undrilled neck
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Re: Neck doesn't fit body
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2008, 05:35:19 PM »
I was planning to dowel the bitch up, managed the matchstick and glue trick before. Tom the heel is fine, it's 57mm if that helps. It's got a slotted nut and string trees already on it. gimme a pm if you're interested. I even have the box it shipped in.
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Re: Neck doesn't fit body
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2008, 05:39:29 PM »
We cut hardwood dowels from maple using a plug cutter

Presumably that also lets you match the direction of the grain?  I didn't use dowels on my Tele because I could only get those stupid little birch dowels where you're drilling/screwing into the end grain and there's no strength at all.
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