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gingataff

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Trouble after re-installing pickup.
« on: July 25, 2008, 01:03:28 AM »
After trying my Nailbomb bridge pup in a few other guitars I finally put it back into my Charvel which has Irish Tour middle and neck pups.

The Nailbomb by itself seems fine but if I turn the volume down to zero I can still hear a signal, whereas if I switch to the single coils its completely silent.

Not only that but position 2 on the selector is wired to split the humbucker and run the slug coil with the middle IT, the sound is extremely bright and thin, like a bad AM radio. I'd say it sounds out of phase, it was certainly not like this before in fact I previously position 2 was a bit too dark.

The wiring and grounding looks ok (by my poor standards), the red is to hot, the green and white are on the tab for splitting and the black and silver to ground on the tone pot. The ITs are untounched (white to hot, black to ground). Touching the pole pieces with a screwdriver shows that both the middle pickup and bridge slug coil are working and the screw coil is split to ground.

Any ideas if it's just bad solder joints or have I managed to wire it out of phase? Also any ideas why I can't turn the pickup down to zero on the Volume pot?
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Re: Trouble after re-installing pickup.
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2008, 08:51:51 AM »
The 'not going to zero' is a bad pot - it's not completely leaving the track as you wind down.  You may have damaged it when soldering.  New pot time.

Not sure about the phasing thing, but it sounds like the middle IT isn't coming into play in position 2, so all you're hearing is the split slug coil?  Could be a bad solder joint on the selector switch?

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Re: Trouble after re-installing pickup.
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2008, 03:35:01 PM »
Cheers for the reply. :D
I was wondering about a bad pot but I didn't do any soldering on it recently so I couldn't have burnt it out, the grounds are on the tone pot, plus it only affects the Nailbomb, not the other pickups  :?
I might try to replace it sometime, I'm tempted to try a 1meg pot anyway.

As I said, touching the middle IT with something metal when the switch in position 2 gives a clunk sound so I guess there's a signal.
I'm wondering if a blob of solder fell somewhere and is causing a problem?
I hate it when things like this happen, it makes me reluctant to play the guitar, as if it has some kind of contagious disease or something :(
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Re: Trouble after re-installing pickup.
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2008, 03:54:01 PM »
The Nailbomb is more powerful than the singles, so that will be why it's only affecting the 'bucker.  The problem will still be there though.  I'd get a new pot  :)

What I usually do in these situations is to re-solder all the parts that may be causing the problem.  It usually cures it.

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Re: Trouble after re-installing pickup.
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2008, 10:12:02 AM »
The Nailbomb is more powerful than the singles, so that will be why it's only affecting the 'bucker.  The problem will still be there though.  I'd get a new pot  :)

What I usually do in these situations is to re-solder all the parts that may be causing the problem.  It usually cures it.
You are right that I only noticed the Nailbomb with the volume on zero as its a more powerful pickup, but after doing some research I found that normal CTS pots never go fully to zero, so I got some of the CTS "Custom" pots (which do what they are supposed to!) from all-parts, along with a new CRL switch and have just spent the last 3 hours rewiring my charvel with these and some Lindy Fralin wire...
The result? Silence when the pots turned down but still out of phase in position 2. This time I didn't bother soldering the green and white to the split position on the switch, just soldered them together and taped them off.
I am right in saying that the hot of the single coils is the white lead aren't I? Maybe I should switch them over, or maybe swap one of the humbuckers leads for the hot?
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