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Re: Time to BKP my SG Standard - Mules or RiffRaffs or ... Holydivers?
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2008, 11:35:11 AM »
Wow, this is awesome advise, you guys still rock so much!

Now my preferences are crystallising towards these possibilities:
Cold Sweat Bridge - AIV Stormy Monday or Missisippi Queen neck
RiffRaff Bridge - AIV Stormy Monday or Missisippi Queen neck

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm *scratchhead* .......



P.S.: I would also like to try a set of these new Gibson Std 2008 Pots, can they be purchased anywhere?
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Re: Time to BKP my SG Standard - Mules or RiffRaffs or ... Holydivers?
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2008, 11:36:32 AM »
How 'bout a Cold Sweat bridge with something AIV based in the neck? Just throwing in ideas here, but with VHIIs in your main guitar, this would provide a nice contrast. I see you like Whitesnake and it's a commonly known fact that the CS bridge is bang on the Sykes tone. The reason I suggest AIV for the neck is again contrast to your other guitars. Again, just pitching the idea, I don't know if it's actually what you want.

Yeah, CS bridge and Abraxas neck could be a good combo, I think; I know the CS neck is a very popular choice but I think it might be a little too bright (for me personally, that is). 

But I do get the impression the CS is an LP pickup, I'm not 100% sure it'd be right in an SG, although I'd like to try it.
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Re: Time to BKP my SG Standard - Mules or RiffRaffs or ... Holydivers?
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2008, 12:00:09 PM »
Yeah, CS bridge and Abraxas neck could be a good combo, I think; I know the CS neck is a very popular choice but I think it might be a little too bright (for me personally, that is). 
Yep that's the set I have in mind for my next guitar. 8) For pretty much the same reasons really. I like an aggresive bridge pickup and a sweet neck pickup.

How it would be in an SG... I'd like to know aswell :lol: That's why I suggested it. In all mahogany, the CS has been described as "dark with bite" which is a rare characteristic I think. Some SGs are pretty shrill sounding naturally and with stock pickups (despite being all mahogany), so personally I'd be most inclined to go high output to drive through it.
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Re: Time to BKP my SG Standard - Mules or RiffRaffs or ... Holydivers?
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2008, 12:21:17 PM »
Yeah, CS bridge and Abraxas neck could be a good combo, I think; I know the CS neck is a very popular choice but I think it might be a little too bright (for me personally, that is). 
Yep that's the set I have in mind for my next guitar. 8) For pretty much the same reasons really. I like an aggresive bridge pickup and a sweet neck pickup.

How it would be in an SG... I'd like to know aswell :lol: That's why I suggested it. In all mahogany, the CS has been described as "dark with bite" which is a rare characteristic I think. Some SGs are pretty shrill sounding naturally and with stock pickups (despite being all mahogany), so personally I'd be most inclined to go high output to drive through it.

 :lol: :lol:  We're definitely thinking along the same lines here - using Hunter as a guinea pig!  :P

You're right about SGs too, my Tokai is quite thin sounding acoustically, compared with my other SGs and mahogany guitars.  I'm still thinking RR/SM, but I'm worried it might end up being a bit weedy.  Fortunately I already have the SM and I can try the RR from my SG-X, so if it doesn't work I'll buy something hotter.
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Re: Time to BKP my SG Standard - Mules or RiffRaffs or ... Holydivers?
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2008, 12:24:18 PM »
In all mahogany, the CS has been described as "dark with bite" which is a rare characteristic I think.

yeah, i'd go with that too
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Re: Time to BKP my SG Standard - Mules or RiffRaffs or ... Holydivers?
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2008, 12:48:20 PM »
For something a bit punchier in the bridge the AV Mule is great.  I prefer it over the Riff Raff as it is a bit fatter in sound.   I have it with a Stormy Monday neck, but with a Mule it would sound good too.  Another combination I have in a mahogany guitar (though it does has a metal front), is an Emerald/Mule set.  This set is a bit heavier in tone, more Thin Lizzie than Free.
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Re: Time to BKP my SG Standard - Mules or RiffRaffs or ... Holydivers?
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2008, 01:08:44 PM »
Out of the pickups u've mentioned I've only tried the riff raff and holydiver bridges and I would definately recommend the riff raff for your sg. You can get great angus Young and Michael Schenker tones from it and it seems to work great with sg's. I also think its alot more versitile than some people say. I can get some good early sabbath type tones from it with the correct settings. With the right amp it can sound plenty thick enough imo aswell.

Heres a clip I did with my jcm800 which i think sounds quite thick http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=13517.0
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Re: Time to BKP my SG Standard - Mules or RiffRaffs or ... Holydivers?
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2008, 01:31:57 PM »
Out of the pickups u've mentioned I've only tried the riff raff and holydiver bridges and I would definately recommend the riff raff for your sg. You can get great angus Young and Michael Schenker tones from it and it seems to work great with sg's. I also think its alot more versitile than some people say. I can get some good early sabbath type tones from it with the correct settings. With the right amp it can sound plenty thick enough imo aswell.

Heres a clip I did with my jcm800 which i think sounds quite thick http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=13517.0

Phwoar Tom, you just sold that RiffRaff to me. It's a stock one, nothing special, normal AV RiffRaff right?
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Re: Time to BKP my SG Standard - Mules or RiffRaffs or ... Holydivers?
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2008, 01:40:40 PM »
*sigh* Oh well, I tried.
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Re: Time to BKP my SG Standard - Mules or RiffRaffs or ... Holydivers?
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2008, 01:46:02 PM »
Out of the pickups u've mentioned I've only tried the riff raff and holydiver bridges and I would definately recommend the riff raff for your sg. You can get great angus Young and Michael Schenker tones from it and it seems to work great with sg's. I also think its alot more versitile than some people say. I can get some good early sabbath type tones from it with the correct settings. With the right amp it can sound plenty thick enough imo aswell.

Heres a clip I did with my jcm800 which i think sounds quite thick http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=13517.0

Phwoar Tom, you just sold that RiffRaff to me. It's a stock one, nothing special, normal AV RiffRaff right?

Yea as far as I know its a stock one. I got it from Crazy_joe on this forum
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Re: Time to BKP my SG Standard - Mules or RiffRaffs or ... Holydivers?
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2008, 03:27:02 PM »
since getting an AIV BKP90 I've not used anything else, so I'd recommend a MQ.

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Re: Time to BKP my SG Standard - Mules or RiffRaffs or ... Holydivers?
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2008, 03:35:47 PM »
*sigh* Oh well, I tried.

Next SG will get your CSs, I promise :o)
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Re: Time to BKP my SG Standard - Mules or RiffRaffs or ... Holydivers?
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2008, 04:02:18 PM »
I have a RR for sale if anyone's interested.
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Re: Time to BKP my SG Standard - Mules or RiffRaffs or ... Holydivers?
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2008, 05:57:59 PM »
since getting an AIV BKP90 I've not used anything else, so I'd recommend a MQ.

A quick 'P.S' from my original mention of M.Qs. I am ( like H.T.H ) now a prime advocate of M.Qs in a lot of guitars, but out of curiosity you may / may not be interested to hear that last night, I had cause to pull out my AIV Mule equipped Les Paul for a play, and then ( with the same pickup heights, amp E.Q. and volume settings ) I played my 335 copy with the M.Qs in .  The M.Qs where noticable more powerfull ( whilst remaining sweet and clean ) - and the articulation was more evident, even  at bedroom volumes.

I realise a 335 copy is going to sound more 'open' than a Gibson Les Paul standard, but WOW ! - the difference in clean power and overall clarity really surprised me  :D

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Re: Time to BKP my SG Standard - Mules or RiffRaffs or ... Holydivers?
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2008, 07:33:05 PM »
since getting an AIV BKP90 I've not used anything else, so I'd recommend a MQ.

A quick 'P.S' from my original mention of M.Qs. I am ( like H.T.H ) now a prime advocate of M.Qs in a lot of guitars, but out of curiosity you may / may not be interested to hear that last night, I had cause to pull out my AIV Mule equipped Les Paul for a play, and then ( with the same pickup heights, amp E.Q. and volume settings ) I played my 335 copy with the M.Qs in .  The M.Qs where noticable more powerfull ( whilst remaining sweet and clean ) - and the articulation was more evident, even  at bedroom volumes.

I realise a 335 copy is going to sound more 'open' than a Gibson Les Paul standard, but WOW ! - the difference in clean power and overall clarity really surprised me  :D

They aren't noise cancelling those MQs are they?
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