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Pedal review -- HBE CPR COMPRESSOR PEDAL !! (long post/pics)
« on: September 18, 2005, 01:50:00 AM »
Having an out-of-town guest is great, but by Day Three I was itching to get back to work and pick up the prize that I knew awaited me there – the latest addition to my growing HBE collection, the Compressor Retro, or CPR. (I already own a Big D overdrive and Dos Mos dual buffer/boost)

The first thing that greeted me when I opened up the box was the familiar hefty weight common to HBE pedals, and the knowledge that the weight is caused not just by a fancy metal cover, but by the quality of the components within. I could see the colour of the pedal peeking out through the internal bubble wrap.

(Side note: The CPR I have is in a custom black/blue checkerboard pattern. The paint job is amazing!! It’s very Cheap Trick!!)

THE OUTSIDE
The external dimensions of the CPR are the same as the Big D and Dos Mos -- approx. 4.5” wide, 3.5” deep and 2” high. The right side of the pedal contains the input jack as well as the jack for the power supply, and the left side has the output jack. The top of the unit has only 3 controls on it: an ON/OFF switch (with the brightest LED I’ve ever seen!!), and two vintage chicken foot style knobs, labeled Sustain and Level. The paint job on my unit completely wraps around all 6 sides of the pedal. The bottom has the serial number sicker and 4 low-profile rubber feet.





THE INSIDE
I eagerly removed the bottom screws to see what was inside the pedal; I’ve come to expect certain things when opening up a pedal from Joel Weaver (the brain behind HBE): point-to-point wiring from the input and output jacks (no PCB mounted jacks for HBE), thick power cables from the power supply jack, and premium components laid out on an immaculate circuit board. The CPR did not let me down in this regard – all of the oversized parts and layout I’ve come to expect were present in spades. The bottom plate also contains the battery clip (the 9v jack also connected to the circuit board via heavy duty red and black cable).

The actual circuit layout for this pedal seemed pretty simple compared to my other pedals; just a handful of resistors, capacitors, and a single IC. The large audio taper pots for the Sustain and Level controls could be seen bulging around the PCB.





THE TEST RIG
I used the following system to test out the CPR: my TOC guitar (ESP body, Gajic Custom neck, OFR, Bare Knuckle Miracle Man in the bridge and Irish Tour in the neck); for gain I used the gain stage in my Rivera Knucklehead half stack as well as a mild OD from the Rivera and the HBE Big D overdrive pedal. A THD Hot Plate resides between the Rivera head and 4x12 cabinet.



HOW DOES IT SOUND?
In short, pedal sounds A M A Z I N G!! Even with the Sustain maxed out, there is very little noise from this pedal.

I began by playing with the gain maxed out on the Rivera and both controls at 9 o’clock. There was such little effect from the compressor, that I had to turn it up for a more dramatic effect to even hear what the CPR is doing; this is a VERY subtle, transparent compressor!

I ended up settling with both knobs at 12 o’clock, where I could easily discern between the effect being on and off, and then rolled it back to where the effect was transparent again, then back up, in an attempt to quantify what I was hearing.

When I put the Big D into the chain, it became much easier to hear what the CPR was doing.

So, what, exactly, did I notice with the CPR? Did I discern any improvement in tone?

The CPR is probably the best compressor pedal I’ve ever encountered; it’s very quite, very transparent, and does what it claims to do. That being said, I did notice that with fast riffing, the transient edge of the notes was dulled slightly. Of course, this is what a compressor is supposed to do; however, I prefer to really hear the pick attack when playing fast, precise riffing.

(Definition side note: transient means “sudden, sharp signal increase often referring to a sudden increase in sound volume or power”; in other words, the ‘attack’ of the pick on the string is a transient)

When playing leads, however, the CPR is a god send! The notes got slightly thicker, sustain was increased (of course), and harmonic content increased; getting screaming pinch harmonics was totally effortless, and I had a silly grin moment as I played entire passages with nothing but pinch harmonics!

COMPARING THE DOS MOS TO THE CPR
I was very curious to hear how the tone changed by swapping out the CPR with the Dos Mos in buffer mode, since I was so pleased with the sound of the CPR in lead work. When used as a buffer in front of the Big D, the Dos Mos still does it for me in terms of tone and resolution.

CONCLUSION
I still have much more experimenting to do with the CPR, as this review encompasses only about 2 hours of actual playing time with the pedal. I have yet to try using the Dos Mos to CPR to Big D all in a row, for example; I will be doing this soon, as well as trying out the CPR for solos at gig volume with the rest of the band at rehearsal.

As far as compressors go, however, the CPR blows away all of the compressor pedals I’ve heard, and many of the rack mounted compressors, too! It embodies everything I’ve come to love about HBE --  the transparency, resolution, bullet proof construction, and uber quality of the effect itself. For my personal taste, the jury is still out on whether I would use it for rhythm work. But for solos, it’s a must have!! BUY OR DIE!!

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Pedal review -- HBE CPR COMPRESSOR PEDAL !! (long post/pics)
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2005, 07:43:46 AM »
Love the paint job :D
I trust we can look forward to some clips!

How are you going to integrate it into your live setup TO?
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2005, 08:01:01 AM »
Hey Ben

Glad you like the Compressor :)

I'd personally have the compressor 1st in my pedal chain, because if u put the Dos Mos 1st, the Compressor (in theory) would balance out any kind of Buffer/Boost you get from the Dos Mos and therefore make it useless :)

I may be wrong in this, but that's what I've found when using Compressors myself :D

I gotta agree with Tim, that paint job is awesome :D
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2005, 10:46:55 AM »
Looks great Ben! I've been thinking about getting one of these too. The reviews in Guitar Buyer were very very good!
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2005, 12:19:20 PM »
*nitpick mode* only one thing wrong with that review... those are not cables. those are wires. a cable is 2 or more wires together, wrapped in aditional insulation. */nitpick mode*


that sounds exaclty what i need hahahaha.. soon you'll need a pedalboard man

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Pedal review -- HBE CPR COMPRESSOR PEDAL !! (long post/pics)
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2005, 01:19:03 PM »
Quote from: Tim
Love the paint job :D
I trust we can look forward to some clips!

How are you going to integrate it into your live setup TO?

Yes, I'll arrange some kind of compare/contrast clip as well as something a bit more frenetic, lol.

I can definitely see myself using the CPR for lead work, which would mean switching the solo boost and the CPR on at the same time ... once the pedal makes it through a couple of rehearsals I'll have it sorted out.

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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2005, 01:22:41 PM »
Quote from: Brow
I'd personally have the compressor 1st in my pedal chain, because if u put the Dos Mos 1st, the Compressor (in theory) would balance out any kind of Buffer/Boost you get from the Dos Mos and therefore make it useless :)

Hmmm, I'll try it both ways, but I think that the buffer should go first -->
the buffer doesn't affect the dynamics at all, just increases the resolution of what you hear ... the compressor adds sustain and fattens the tone ....

Remember, I compared the Dos Mos to the CPR, but didn't play them in the same signal chain yet.

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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2005, 01:24:04 PM »
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*nitpick mode* only one thing wrong with that review... those are not cables. those are wires. a cable is 2 or more wires together, wrapped in aditional insulation. */nitpick mode*

Psssh! Sez you! What do you call coaxial cable, then, smarty pants?!


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that sounds exaclty what i need hahahaha.. soon you'll need a pedalboard man

I've needed a pedal board for 15 years!  :roll:

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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2005, 01:28:22 PM »
Hi Ben, you'll have to bring it over when you eventually make it west of the Hudson!
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2005, 02:27:03 PM »
HBE gear is great! The UFO is worth checking out, great fuzz and octave sounds. I don't want to try the CPR 'cause I'm liking my Keeley comp.....The Big D and DOsmos are both great pedals.

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Hey Ben

Glad you like the Compressor :)

I'd personally have the compressor 1st in my pedal chain, because if u put the Dos Mos 1st, the Compressor (in theory) would balance out any kind of Buffer/Boost you get from the Dos Mos and therefore make it useless :)

I may be wrong in this, but that's what I've found when using Compressors myself :D

I gotta agree with Tim, that paint job is awesome :D


Now, if you use the dosmos in buffer mode, it's not altering the signal, only buffering it, so what coms out of the Dosmos is just a low impedance version of what went in, so the compressor will still work fine either side of the Dosmos.

If the Dosmos was a boost before, when you hit the on button the compressor will squash down the signal. So you're right on that bit Brow! Keeley recomends running the comp after an OD pedal - so the compressor dosen't kill the ODs ability to distort more or less depending on how hard you pick.

Davey - where do you get the wire/cable thing from???  Coax cable is twin conductor though (shield/signal) so maybe you're right! :)

TO - ask Joel about an attack adjustment - a longer attack will let the initial transient from your pick through  before the compressor kicks in to bring up the decay part of the note (sustain)- then you can riff with it!
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Also - the attack problem should be better with lower output pups.
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2005, 02:47:23 PM »
Love that paint job!

You just had to post yet another pic of your rig. :wink:
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2005, 03:58:12 PM »
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TO - ask Joel about an attack adjustment - a longer attack will let the initial transient from your pick through  before the compressor kicks in to bring up the decay part of the note (sustain)- then you can riff with it!
 :twisted:
Also - the attack problem should be better with lower output pups.

I plan on it ... there does seem to be one mini pot on the circuit board, so I have to ask Joel what that pot is for.
When I get my Strat neck back, I will be able to test the compressor with the VHII, and then we'll see what's what!!

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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2005, 03:59:55 PM »
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You just had to post yet another pic of your rig. :wink:

LOL; I know everyone here knows what my rig looks like, but I wrote the review out in Microsoft Word first, and since I'm posting it on several forums at once, it makes my life easier to just include everything as opposed to customising each one seperately.

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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2005, 04:10:49 PM »
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*nitpick mode* only one thing wrong with that review... those are not cables. those are wires. a cable is 2 or more wires together, wrapped in aditional insulation. */nitpick mode*

Psssh! Sez you! What do you call coaxial cable, then, smarty pants?!

a coax is a coax.. it is a cable as the mesh shielding acts as a 2nd wire (most often for grounding.. as it's used for high frequencies, which make the current flow in the outside of the wire (skin effect) and to rectify the loses, there's just a thin mesh ;))
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that sounds exaclty what i need hahahaha.. soon you'll need a pedalboard man

I've needed a pedal board for 15 years!  :roll:[/quote]
then get one hehe

and ben, you need to make a picture of your whole rig now.. all the pedals that you use =)  that pic is outdated

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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2005, 05:06:08 PM »
Is a conductor made from multiple wires (ie stranded rather than solid core) a cable or a wire then????

People who work in electronics have a completly different take on descriptions offered by electricians!
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