Kahler on Explorer, help...

[HTH AMPS]

I've got an Epi Explorer that I'm happy with as my metal axe, but I'd prefer a Kahler on there over the tune-o-matic for some whammy action. 

Is there a specific Kahler model I should get? (I'm a massive Slayer fan fwiw)

I'm thinking this is gonna cost around £200 inc the trem and fitting, does that sound about right?

[WezV]

http://www.wammiworld.com/u7200.html

or even better

http://www.wammiworld.com/u2230.html

[Will]

When I was getting my LP properly fitted with a Kahler, Jonathan quoted me about £300 for a new Kahler to go on there.

Found one on ebay though, and plugging the hole and fitting a studmount one came to about £387 ?

[HTH AMPS]

http://www.wammiworld.com/u7200.html

or even better

http://www.wammiworld.com/u2230.html

thanks Wez, great prices.  The 7200 seems like the one to go for, but what actually is the difference between the two models?

[Philly Q]

Looking at the pics and description, the 2230 (Gibson) model has Kahler Flyer style saddles (with two height adjustment screws per saddle, and non-adjustable string spacing).

Back in the '80s, the Flyer models were cheaper than the standard ones, so I would think the 7200 is the better unit.  And now it's cheaper!

[WezV]

tbh i dont know much about the gibson stamped ones

from the new stuff you are looking at a 2200 or a 7200

if it starts with a 2 or 3 its hand milled in the USA custom shop and only available direct from kahler, a 4 means its in china.  the 7's are the USA factory made trems available for retail  - these are stamped 'hybrid' as they have a mini screw to lock the trem.  its what i used recently and a damn good trem

[FELINEGUITARS]

There is a massive difference in price between the made in USA ones (nearly £300) and the made in Korea/China ones
The usa series are the 2200 type codes and the far eastern ones 7200 type

[Sifu Ben]

You could always get the new Kerry King signature model

[Sifu Ben]

There is a massive difference in price between the made in USA ones (nearly £300) and the made in Korea/China ones
The usa series are the 2200 type codes and the far eastern ones 7200 type

The site says that the 7200 series are machine made in the US, as opposed to hand milled for the 2200.

[Will]

Well, I had an 80s flyer (no experience with the modern variants) and swapped it for an original proper stud mount.

night and day...

[WezV]

The site says that the 7200 series are machine made in the US, as opposed to hand milled for the 2200.

thats how i understand it.  both 7200 and 2200 are usa trems... but the 2200 are custom built to spec.  The 7200 are not a far eastern cheapie


Not sure if there is a difference between the baseplates of these two trems - i suspect they may cast the 7200 base plates rather than hand mill them but am not sure

[Philly Q]

Well, I had an 80s flyer (no experience with the modern variants) and swapped it for an original proper stud mount.

Yeah, I'm only talking about the '80s versions, I haven't tried any of the new ones.  I have a standard brass flat mount one (2300), a Flyer (2330), a fixed bridge like D. Mustaine used to use (3300) and a traditional series (2500).

[HTH AMPS]

ahh, so the 2200 is the one to get then - AND its cheaper, nice one.

any pitfalls to watch for when installing? (note, I'm not gonna be installing it myself unless its foolproof, my woodwork skills are pitifull).

[WezV]

if we are talking about current production from Kahler then the 2200 is the USA custom shop version and will not be cheaper (POA).  the 7200 is the USA factory version and they list retail as $250  ($189 at the shop i posted to)

i have the 7200 flat mount bridge on a guitar and it really is very good, although at some point i would like to try a custom shop one to see how much difference there is


this has a bit of info on the different numbering systems

http://www.wammiworld.com/Faq's.html


installation does involve accurate woodwood as you still need a route for the underside of the trem to sit in

[HTH AMPS]

Wez, I'm talking about the two links you posted - just deciding which of those two would be the better.

I've convinced the 'rents to get me one for xmas (it's not that far away folks).