Hi Getting my effects pedals

[mikey5]

Hey guys how are you doing. I own a Boss MT2 distortion pedal, and recently I have been kind of unimpressed with its tone. I heard the Love pedal 8oo which blew my mind because it made the amp sound exactly like a cranked Marshall JCM 800. I also liked the sound of the Vox Satchurator, Ibanz Tube king, Radial Hot British, and Carl Martin Plexitone, and Marshall Jackhammer. I want a full sound ( The MT2 can get it, but its not so good) and I want to be able to get classic metal distortion ( Like Master of Puppets-OZZY)- classic rock led zeppelin Deep purple. Tell me what you guys think. I am seriously thinking of selling this one and getting something else or maybe I should keep it and go with another pedal as well. Give any opinions.
Mike

[hamfist]

All MT-2's should have been put down at birth IMO.

Some great pedals to look at are :-

MI Audio Crunch Box
Blackstone Appliances Mosfet Overdrive
Fulltone GT-500
CMATMODS Brownie.

I've had my eye on the Lovepedal Purple plexi 800 too. If you liked that so much, why not go for that one ?

[Spitfire]

ibanez jemani

imo a pedal just for a dist, to go into a bad sounding amp is a bad idea.. might aswell save the £100 or so and put it towards an amp

[mikey5]

My amp is good Orange TT head+112 cab due to its simplicity It lacks a bit of headroom that those Marshall JCMs tend to crank out. You know how a room gets saturated with tone. Thats what I want. TT is good because it sounds great loud and at low volumes

[Spitfire]

jamini then

[Ted 'N' Leo]

Maybe one of the Blackstar pedals?

[mikey5]

All MT-2's should have been put down at birth IMO.

Some great pedals to look at are :-

MI Audio Crunch Box
Blackstone Appliances Mosfet Overdrive
Fulltone GT-500
CMATMODS Brownie.

I've had my eye on the Lovepedal Purple plexi 800 too. If you liked that so much, why not go for that one ?

I dont know get it, but there are some other options that look good too, and it seems more of an amp effect than a distortion Id have to boost it with my booster pedal or maybe get  tubescreamer. Also these pedals that have tubes in them are really good like the TubeKing and the Hot british by radial

[hamfist]

Also these pedals that have tubes in them are really good like the TubeKing and the Hot british by radial

Yes, I know a lot of folks like the Hot British a lot. Also, the H&K Tube Factor is very well thought of, although I have played neither of these.

  However, I have played or owned a couple of the Blackstar pedals, a Seymour Duncan Twin Tube and a Mesa V-twin . All tube-based pedals.  Personally, I don't think they add anything that a good SS pedal can't do at least as well. And the SS pedals are almost always much smaller, which makes it a lot easier to squeeze them onto my pedalboard.
  I also have found each of the tube-based pedals to have their own "sound", and it is difficult to get any other distinct tones from them.  the best of the SS pedals (for example, some of the pedals I mentioned in my earlier post) seem to have a much more effective EQ, and probably a greater tonal range than any of the tube-based pedals I have tried.

[mikey5]

Just out of curiousity which one of the blackstars did you own? How did it sound? They have a thicker sound to them dont they? Another one that i discovered today is the lovepedal provalve it sounds good and the purpose of it is to replicate Marshall-Rectifier tones. I am looking at that one and it dosent seem to have a tube, the vox satch distortion dosent either. Anyway let me know what you think Oh yea and what about the V twin. If I have a tube amp is it overkill to have a tube distortion
Mike

[hamfist]

Just out of curiousity which one of the blackstars did you own? How did it sound? They have a thicker sound to them dont they? Another one that i discovered today is the lovepedal provalve it sounds good and the purpose of it is to replicate Marshall-Rectifier tones. I am looking at that one and it dosent seem to have a tube, the vox satch distortion dosent either. Anyway let me know what you think Oh yea and what about the V twin. If I have a tube amp is it overkill to have a tube distortion
Mike

I've owned both the NT Dist and the HT Dual. They sound like this - http://www.box.net/shared/qqtivd46sr

The V-twin was OK, but just OK, IMO. It had it's own sound, but a bit of a woolly loose bass really.

And whether it's worth getting any distortion pedal if you already have a tube amp is purely subjective. If your amp has a great distortion, and you can get it at the volumes you play at, then the only point of a dirt pedal is to give you different varieties of dirt, compared to your amp.
  Personally, I don't think pedal dirt, is necessarily better or worse than amp dirt. I have had good rigs using both. Just trying to find something that works for YOU is the key !

[Twinfan]

Personally, I don't think pedal dirt, is necessarily better or worse than amp dirt. I have had good rigs using both. Just trying to find something that works for YOU is the key !

I completely agree.  I use a clean amp and pedals with my band Doppelganger, and a dirty amp for YC/DC? - both ways giving great results.  As Hamfist says, try everything and see what works for you by using your ears  :)

[blue]

on the Mesa v-twin, on it's own it's not suited to metal or any aggressive rock.  the overdrive/distortion is thick and sludgy, far too bassy and muddy for metal.  the red channel has plenty of gain, but it's very muddy.  however, when i combined the blue channel with a Marshall guv'nor i got a fabulous, aggressive hard rock/metal sound.  a lot of money to spend though, when i'm sure you can get just as good, if not better, from a single, cheaper, pedal.  those blackstars look good.

[phlip]

  I also have found each of the tube-based pedals to have their own "sound", and it is difficult to get any other distinct tones from them.  the best of the SS pedals (for example, some of the pedals I mentioned in my earlier post) seem to have a much more effective EQ, and probably a greater tonal range than any of the tube-based pedals I have tried.

They do very much have their own sound, much more so than a SS pedal. However I think this is mostly down to these 'Tube' pedals being more of a Pre-Amp section in a box as opposed to just a stomp box to chuck in front of and enhance you amp.

I have a Blackstar HT-Dual and love it, yes it has a signature sound, but no more so than say a Jcm-800's or a plexi45

[sgmypod]

The HT dual is a great pedal and yes is more pre-amp with own sound than a stomp box..but does sound great.
If I want more subtle stomp box to drive an amp the J&H is great.

[Twinfan]

I have a Blackstar HT-Dual and love it, yes it has a signature sound, but no more so than say a Jcm-800's or a plexi45

The thing I found with the HT Dual I had was that the differences between guitars used was minimal.  They do have a great sound, but it does dominate your tone.  If you're the kind of guy who (like me) uses different guitars for different tones/textures then the HT Dual won't be ideal for you.

A true amp's preamp, like a JTM45, allows each guitar to shine through  :)