seriously having a mass debate with myself over amps...!

[Woogie]

The DSL has a goldback doesn't it?

[varkunus]

hhhmmm.... i know a mesa tone comes at a price, the patented mesa recto price of £2k. Anyway out of interest have u played the ad100vt? Well its hard to explain the metal tone i want, but imagine a recto low end and sort of slightly muffled sounded, but with more biting mids, and slightly more peavey and nu metal like although i dont play nu metal. But sort of similar to tony iommis - fused tone but much bassier

[sambo]

I've played the AD30, and it was very good for the price. Versatile and decent-sounding. But it IS a £200 modeller-amp.

 

[varkunus]

The DSL has a goldback doesn't it?

i duno

[Woogie]

The DSL has a goldback doesn't it?

i duno

Look in the back and let me know. If so, it's a 100w speaker

[varkunus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hms9o70qiJU i mean this sounds good for marshally stuff. And isnt the 212 meant to be alot better than the smaller wattages due to 12 inch proper(ish) speakers unlike in the 30 where its a 10 inch isnt it? Well i know u wont even get rectifier sounds from a rectifier unless its cranked but if u can imagine a fusion of these tones at my fingertips

the industrial element of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzfPooOzVqc, the sort of bite of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YczYC2yHTM and the low end of this at 14 seconds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67bTpVQfB6U that big biting low end.

Im pretty convinced the ad100vt is smooth enough for gary moore and EJ tones. Just that mesa sound really

[varkunus]

http://www.kietzmann.co.uk/guitars/dsl401/index.htm its stock so here

[HTH AMPS]

For all the stuff you want I'd go with a rack preamp.  Ideally it would be something like the Rocktron Prophesy, but they're £950, however, if you look at the second hand market for older and similar products, you will get much of what you want. 

[varkunus]

i think id take the ad over the ad XL but listen to the last settting "Damage" at 8.22 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGNx9O0d_Sg That very similar to solo tone im going for rich and fluid would the Ad manage to do that>

[varkunus]

I really like the industrial edge on this tone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIY1SzNBj3I although maybe slightly less fizzy. But i like the industrialness and low end there. So you kind of see what im going for

[Woogie]

PSA-1
Poweramp
1x12/2x12

Thats my vote

[dave_mc]

a modeller might be worth considering, yeah. at your budget you could probably get to the second-tier of the modellers, the flextone, better vox valvetronixes etc. i'm not too well up on modellers though, i'll leave the suggestions to the other guys here who know more about them than i do. :)

[Will]

PSA-1
Poweramp
1x12/2x12

Thats my vote

+1

[varkunus]

wont that be more expensive? Anyway would the vox do a good job?

[varkunus]

just checked the psa1 and its to expensive, plus a power amp plus cab im on for almost £1000. Any cheaper solution or is the vox valvetronixs the solution? I mean it seems to do low gain and cleans fine, just a heavey peavey nu metal type sound (although i dont play nu metal i do quite like the sound) and recto type sound.