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Canadian Steve

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What strength of pickups are more suited for an SG???
« on: September 15, 2008, 03:46:19 AM »
I've heard when choosing p'ups for SGs that it's best to go for either a low output p'up or very high output.  What range of output is it best to stay away from when dealing with SGs and which BKPs?
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Re: What strength of pickups are more suited for an SG???
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2008, 12:29:20 PM »
I've read that as well Steve...

I can't tell you what range to avoid, but I can tell you that I've had Riff Raffs and MQs in my (Epiphone) mahogany SG, and that they both work nicely.

I was considering Warpigs for a while, and would have regarded them as a safe bet, but as you can see from my sig, I'm a more of a "vintage" kinda guy on the humbucking front!
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Re: What strength of pickups are more suited for an SG???
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2008, 12:32:00 PM »
I believe Black Dogs/VHIIs etc are the ones to avoid...

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Re: What strength of pickups are more suited for an SG???
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2008, 12:51:50 PM »
The "conventional wisdom" is to go for low output (Stormy Mondays, Mules, Riff Raffs, PGs) or high output (Miracle Men, Painkillers, Warpigs).  Or P-90s/MQs.

Everything else is verboten - but I have a feeling Rebel Yells would be bright enough to cut through the mahogany.  And maybe Cold Sweats too.
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Re: What strength of pickups are more suited for an SG???
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2008, 01:21:49 PM »
Dunno if an all mahogany LP would be similar to an all mahogany SG but I tried a Rebel Yell in the bridge of my Pearl and didnt really like it much. Might just be the RY though, I didnt like it for chords/anything other than leads in all the guitars I tried, too congested sounding in the mids.

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Re: What strength of pickups are more suited for an SG???
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2008, 01:33:37 PM »
I agree Tom, I wasn't that keen on the RY myself in the end.  But for those who like it, I think it could work OK in an SG.
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Re: What strength of pickups are more suited for an SG???
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2008, 04:39:14 PM »
I believe the cutoff for this-and-above is about the nailbomb.

I dont know where the this-and-below is.

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Re: What strength of pickups are more suited for an SG???
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2008, 06:56:14 PM »
I have rebel yells in an all mahogany PRS Standard and they sound great.  A PRS has a lot less mass than a Les Paul so this might be why people haven't liked them. 
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Re: What strength of pickups are more suited for an SG???
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2008, 07:00:21 PM »
Definitely a factor of guitar mass, and probably amplifier settings, too. The Rebel Yell is not congested in the mids at all and sounds HUGE in the PRS.

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Re: What strength of pickups are more suited for an SG???
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2008, 12:51:33 AM »
I believe Black Dogs/VHIIs etc are the ones to avoid...

Tim recommended Black Dogs for my SG type guitar and I know Lollar and Fralin prefer to go with slightly hotter PAFs in SGs, so I think these should be OK.  I'm thinking Emeralds + Nailbombs fall past the threshold.
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Re: What strength of pickups are more suited for an SG???
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2008, 11:05:30 AM »
Hmm.  That's new then.  Tim used to say nothing hotter than Riff Raffs.  He must have changed his mind  ;)

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Re: What strength of pickups are more suited for an SG???
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2008, 11:34:04 AM »
I'm not much for the nailbomb in my Epi SG (Mahogany), it seems far too middy.
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Re: What strength of pickups are more suited for an SG???
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2008, 07:32:29 PM »
I've heard about Nailbombs not being as suitable for SGs, what high output p'ups would be suitable?  I think Warpigs and Painkillers are suitable, what about Holy Divers or Miracle Men?
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Re: What strength of pickups are more suited for an SG???
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2008, 11:28:01 PM »
I've heard about Nailbombs not being as suitable for SGs, what high output p'ups would be suitable?  I think Warpigs and Painkillers are suitable, what about Holy Divers or Miracle Men?

I like the holy diver in my gibson faded
I just needed to correct the screws height because of the strings angle

but I believe the cold sweat would work better
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Re: What strength of pickups are more suited for an SG???
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2008, 10:38:04 PM »
Anybody have any idea or experience of a VHII in an SG or similar?
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