Epic solos

[noodleplugerine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H76LUCBIUg

No question.

People seem to rave about this guy, but for me, aside from being in maybe the worst big name death metal band - who seem to really wish they were a power metal band  :lol: - he's just a giuy who knows harmonic minor box shapes and can play them fast, interspersed with licks he's pinched off Yngwie.

Whatever, I really don't care who he's influenced by, or how silly his band's name is, or how simple the thought behind the solo is. It's an absolutely BRILLIANT solo.

[nfe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H76LUCBIUg

No question.

People seem to rave about this guy, but for me, aside from being in maybe the worst big name death metal band - who seem to really wish they were a power metal band  :lol: - he's just a giuy who knows harmonic minor box shapes and can play them fast, interspersed with licks he's pinched off Yngwie.

Whatever, I really don't care who he's influenced by, or how silly his band's name is, or how simple the thought behind the solo is. It's an absolutely BRILLIANT solo.

And I think it's balls, opinions laddo 

I didn;t say anything about his band's name, either.

[sambo]

the worst big name death metal band - who seem to really wish they were a power metal band  :lol: -

Urgh. Not too fussed either way by the solo or the band, but that sentence is just the epitome of everything I hate about the pigeon-holing of music.

It just makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

[FELINEGUITARS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H76LUCBIUg

No question.

People seem to rave about this guy, but for me, aside from being in maybe the worst big name death metal band - who seem to really wish they were a power metal band  :lol: - he's just a giuy who knows harmonic minor box shapes and can play them fast, interspersed with licks he's pinched off Yngwie.

Whatever, I really don't care who he's influenced by, or how silly his band's name is, or how simple the thought behind the solo is. It's an absolutely BRILLIANT solo.

I liked the clarity of tone that he had and some of what he was playing, although got a bit messy in places , and its a cool looking guitar
But his voice  :!:  not something I could listen to at all

[Sailor Charon]

Uli Roth - Sails of Charon

I really must learn that song...

[nfe]

the worst big name death metal band - who seem to really wish they were a power metal band  :lol: -

Urgh. Not too fussed either way by the solo or the band, but that sentence is just the epitome of everything I hate about the pigeon-holing of music.

It just makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Well,  if I explain what I mean. Firstly, I just think they're a terrible death metal band. Boring as hell and clinical and just completely, well, uninteresting and certainly the worst I can think of out of the more popular (big name) acts. Now, the "wish they were power metal" bit, they aproach everything in very PM arrangements and have all the widdly widdly posturing and posing that most PM bands do, finding excuses in songs to wedge massive solos in where they're jarring to the song as a whole, the Fermented Offal Discharge one being a fine example, they just generally sound like a power metal band covering death metal songs to me. Folk can like that if they want, that's fine and dandy, but to me it just comes accross as totally devoid of any emotion and frankly bores me to tears. Which is why I hate power metal (generally anyway, I don't want to be COMPLETELY black and white in case one day a PM band I like appears) like Roo hates teles.

I want music to be gritty and emotionally charged and a bit rough (unless, to be fair, I'm listening to Autechre  :lol:), they're the polar opposite and that's why I think they're baws.

[Crazy_Joe]

Metal without solos is so boring. I don't care what genre you want to put them under i think they are a great heavy band and nobody else sounds like them, which is a big achievement for metal.

[Ted 'N' Leo]

I don't really mind necrophagist much, its just not really my kinda music anymore. I feel most metal is quite devoid of the passion that i like in blues-rock music. Just my opinion.

Also, i find sweep picking to be one of the most boring things you can do on a guitar, its just being flashy. (Although this might just be my justification for not being able to get my head around it!).

There are some really good metal bands out there i just feel that Nercophagist aren't one of them, i think thats what nfe is trying to get across.

Oh, and solos, agree with Rory Gallaghers Tattoo'd Lady on Irish Tour, one of my all time favourite albums.

[noodleplugerine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H76LUCBIUg

No question.

People seem to rave about this guy, but for me, aside from being in maybe the worst big name death metal band - who seem to really wish they were a power metal band  :lol: - he's just a giuy who knows harmonic minor box shapes and can play them fast, interspersed with licks he's pinched off Yngwie.

Whatever, I really don't care who he's influenced by, or how silly his band's name is, or how simple the thought behind the solo is. It's an absolutely BRILLIANT solo.

I liked the clarity of tone that he had and some of what he was playing, although got a bit messy in places , and its a cool looking guitar
But his voice  :!:  not something I could listen to at all

Jah, not my kind of music either, just love that solo. Tis a very bad video to show it properly, sounds great on recording though!

[Will]

Also, i find sweep picking to be one of the most boring things you can do on a guitar, its just being flashy. (Although this might just be my justification for not being able to get my head around it!).

+1 I practiced it for a bit, and found that it is just a little bit of different thought. Found it so unfulfilling though

[noodleplugerine]

Also, i find sweep picking to be one of the most boring things you can do on a guitar, its just being flashy. (Although this might just be my justification for not being able to get my head around it!).

+1 I practiced it for a bit, and found that it is just a little bit of different thought. Found it so unfulfilling though

Becker manages to make them sound extraordinarily diverse and expressive. Sweeps are just arpeggios, and arpeggios can be used brilliantly.

[nfe]

Metal without solos is so boring. I don't care what genre you want to put them under i think they are a great heavy band and nobody else sounds like them, which is a big achievement for metal.

There's a time and a place for solos, I'm certainly not saying there isn't, I just thinks it's hella boring when a band is quite obviously just finding a way of crowbarring a solo into every song just for the sake of the guitarist getting to show off.  As for no one sounding lie them, there's certainly plenty in a very similar vein. Plenty massively more tecnhical too, if thats what makes them exciting for some folk. :)

Also, i find sweep picking to be one of the most boring things you can do on a guitar, its just being flashy. (Although this might just be my justification for not being able to get my head around it!).

+1 I practiced it for a bit, and found that it is just a little bit of different thought. Found it so unfulfilling though

Becker manages to make them sound extraordinarily diverse and expressive. Sweeps are just arpeggios, and arpeggios can be used brilliantly.

That's absolutely true, but I think amongst people who use sweep picking very heavily the ratio of people who use it as a musical device to people who use it because it's a flashy technique for the sake of it is skewed quite some way to the latter. Sadly. When it's used well then yes, it can be marvelous.

[Sifu Ben]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H78F7M-LATw
Love this, just wish it was on the studio version.

[broken cord]

I have to agree the Tattoo'd Lady is a fine example of Rory Gallaghers playing, but for me it was "Walk on Hot Coals" of the Irish Tour of '74 that I would pick. I still have the 33 1/3 double album that I bought in 1974 after first hearing about Rory, I was a young-gun  keyboard player back then , but Rory's guitar work blew me away. The purchase of that album in 1974 inspired no less than 20 of my freinds who are total  Die-Hard Rory fans today.

I enjoy alot of John Sykes work with Whitesnake and his solo work as well, and I think Uli John Roth's Sails of Charon is a beautiful display of guitar playing. However, I often work on Gary Moore's - Parisienne Walkways and am totally inspired buy his level of playing ond tone.

[Ted 'N' Leo]

I have to agree the Tattoo'd Lady is a fine example of Rory Gallaghers playing, but for me it was "Walk on Hot Coals" of the Irish Tour of '74 that I would pick. I still have the 33 1/3 double album that I bought in 1974 after first hearing about Rory, I was a young-gun  keyboard player back then , but Rory's guitar work blew me away. The purchase of that album in 1974 inspired no less than 20 of my freinds who are total  Die-Hard Rory fans today.

Walk on Hot Coals was a close second for me, i just feel that there is a definitive solo in Tattoo'd lady, that WOHC lacks, because its so long and improv, but amazing all the same.