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Frank_C

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Can Anyone Explain Ohms Please?
« on: October 15, 2008, 09:03:18 PM »
Im looking to change the speakers in my cab to some to some celestion Vintage 30's and they come in 8 or 16 ohms and im not sure which one to get :S if anyone has any advice please share!

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Re: Can Anyone Explain Ohms Please?
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2008, 09:09:39 PM »
What does it say on your amp-near where the output jack goes for the speaker cable? 
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Re: Can Anyone Explain Ohms Please?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2008, 09:12:57 PM »
There is a selector switch with 4 8 or 16 ohms you can choose.

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Re: Can Anyone Explain Ohms Please?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2008, 09:24:20 PM »
Ok you can use 2x 8 Ohm speakers with the setting on 4 Ohms on the amp or 2 x 16 Ohm speakers with the amp set on 8 Ohms. I cannot tell you about the sound characteristics but I am sure others here will perhaps be able to.Obviously your question was relating to speaker impedance and we have disregarded the power handling capabilities. You have to check the output of your amp and then think about the handling capabilities of the speakers.
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Re: Can Anyone Explain Ohms Please?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2008, 09:28:29 PM »
so in a 4x12" cab would i get 4, 8ohm speakers and have the selector on 8ohms?


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Re: Can Anyone Explain Ohms Please?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2008, 09:35:34 PM »
in a 4x12 they are usually wired in series/parallel - i.e. each pair wired in series and then the 2 pairs wired in parallel.  This lets you use 16 ohm speakers and get a 16 ohm cab (though you could get 4 ohm if you wired it all parallel).  The idea of 16 ohm, is that 2 cabs will only drop you to 8 ohm.  You can get 8 ohm speakers and get an 8 ohm cab with series/parallel wiring, but it is more unusual.
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Re: Can Anyone Explain Ohms Please?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2008, 09:35:55 PM »
You should set your output impedance to match the load (I assume you have a valve amp).

I would advise trying to use the highest impedance tap on your output transformer as this will utilize the most number of secondary windings, which is theoretically the best way of using the transformer.

Assuming you have a 2x12 cab you can wire the speakers in series (add the speaker impedances together), or in parallel (half the impedances assuming they are equal), however there are differences in how speakers in parallel and series behave. I have posted on this elsewhere, but in a nut shell parallel wired speakers have better damping and hence a tighter bass response.

For a 2 x12 cab I would advise using two 16 ohm speakers in parallel to give 8 ohms. This will give yopu the option of running another 8 ohm cab with it (4 ohm in total). If you use 2 x 8 ohm speakers in parallel you would have to match this to 4 ohms and then you couldn't use another cab.

If you have a 4 x 12 cab then these are usually wired series/parallel. 4 x 16 ohm speakers will give a 16 ohm cab.

If you are wiring this up yourself it is a good idea to check the DC resistance with a multimeter (a £5 Maplin job is fine) before you run an amp into the can. Mismatching the load in a valve amp can cause the amp to be damaged. The Dc resistance of a speaker is a few ohms lower than the impedance. I would expect an 8 ohm cab to measure 6—7 ohms, and a 16 ohm cab to measure 12-14 ohms.

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Re: Can Anyone Explain Ohms Please?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2008, 09:36:57 PM »
Seeing you have a 4 x12 I would use 16 ohm speakers to give a 16 ohm cab.

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Re: Can Anyone Explain Ohms Please?
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2008, 09:55:25 PM »
cheers for all your help guys, i more or less understand what i need to do now as before i didnt have a clue and didnt want to buy whatever speakers and damage my head!