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silentrage

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Re: Boost, what are they?
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2008, 11:43:06 PM »
I've tried that out too. :)

Not working out that great with my onboard soundcard, the source signal is so saturated with noise from the PC that it's impossible to use any heavy distortion.

I'm looking into a nice inexpensive pre-amp for this purpose though, I heard the Revalver from Peavey does a pretty impressive tube sim.
Therefore I'm on the lookout for a Engl E530 preamp, I've heard some good results with this thing plugged into the PC and ReValver as a Poweramp sim and the GR3 thrown in for effects when needed.

One thing I love about Guitar Rig is the drag and drop effects chains.

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Re: Boost, what are they?
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2008, 12:30:43 AM »
Don't boosts sound a bit wrong with a s/state amp
But using a boost into a solid state amp doesn't give you much benefit - SS amps simply arent as dynamic (i.e. sensitive to changes in level, attack etc) as valve amps & if the overdrive is lousy in the first place, you aren't going to improve it or get much more out of it with a boost.

It depends. A clean boost probably won't help you much, but an overdrive pedal does more than just boost the signal. It tightens the lows, boosts the mids, and basically changes the character of your sound in a way that tightens things up, be the amp tube, solid state, or digital.

I have the MT2 right now, and it's making my warpig sound exactly the same as my stock pups, so I'm gonna have to punish it.
Any recommendations on a good hi gain pedal that doesn't wash out your tone?

Have you thought about getting your MT-2 modded? Stock, they're noisy and tough to distinguish, but modded they can be pretty neat. The last few days I've been using my modded MT-2 into a Crate Powerblock as kind of a practice rig, and I'm surprised at how good it sounds. It's very thick and heavy, but it's still pretty clear, too.

silentrage

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Re: Boost, what are they?
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2008, 12:43:51 AM »
and it doesn't hide your original sound characteristics?

Which mod did you get? I was looking at the monte allum mods for a long time, but I'm really thinking I should get a proper amp before tweaking the pedal, I mean if I get one with a good enough tube distortion I might just sell the pedal for some cash.
I'd hate to mod it, then find out the amp still doesn't clear up, and now I have to get a new amp anyways.

As of now, it sounds like mud with or without the pedal, like, there's no thump to this bass, it's just HUMMMM HUMMM, it's hard to describe.

Have you ever had one of those cheap plastiky japanese cars drive by, and it's blasting hip hop or techno and the bass is making the car's body panels hum giving out this really ugly and dull angry bee hive sound?
That's kinda how my amp's low end sounds like right now.
Is that something that's fix-able with a good OD or modded MT2?

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Re: Boost, what are they?
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2008, 03:14:58 AM »
As of now, it sounds like mud with or without the pedal, like, there's no thump to this bass, it's just HUMMMM HUMMM, it's hard to describe.

Have you ever had one of those cheap plastiky japanese cars drive by, and it's blasting hip hop or techno and the bass is making the car's body panels hum giving out this really ugly and dull angry bee hive sound?
That's kinda how my amp's low end sounds like right now.
Is that something that's fix-able with a good OD or modded MT2?
Sounds like a combination of a poorly constructed combo amp with a cr@ppy speaker and too much bass.  You really do want a new amp, I know you do.;)

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Re: Boost, what are they?
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2008, 03:16:31 AM »
It cuts some bass and boosts some mids, but it doesn't make the original tone unrecognizable or anything. It just emphasizes certain parts of it.

I got mine modded by a guy who does great work but isn't currently doing his pedal modding. He's the same guy who made my overdrive. But Keeley is probably the most popular and well known place to send an MT-2 to get modded. I think the MT-2 pedals used in Cannibal Corpse are Keeley modded. The best distortion pedal isn't going to be as good as just getting a good amp, though. I was just offering a relatively low cost option if you decided to go the pedal route. Though a modded MT-2 into a good amp will destroy.

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Re: Boost, what are they?
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2008, 04:45:25 AM »
As of now, it sounds like mud with or without the pedal, like, there's no thump to this bass, it's just HUMMMM HUMMM, it's hard to describe.

Have you ever had one of those cheap plastiky japanese cars drive by, and it's blasting hip hop or techno and the bass is making the car's body panels hum giving out this really ugly and dull angry bee hive sound?
That's kinda how my amp's low end sounds like right now.
Is that something that's fix-able with a good OD or modded MT2?
Sounds like a combination of a poorly constructed combo amp with a cr@ppy speaker and too much bass.  You really do want a new amp, I know you do.;)

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It cuts some bass and boosts some mids, but it doesn't make the original tone unrecognizable or anything. It just emphasizes certain parts of it.

I got mine modded by a guy who does great work but isn't currently doing his pedal modding. He's the same guy who made my overdrive. But Keeley is probably the most popular and well known place to send an MT-2 to get modded. I think the MT-2 pedals used in Cannibal Corpse are Keeley modded. The best distortion pedal isn't going to be as good as just getting a good amp, though. I was just offering a relatively low cost option if you decided to go the pedal route. Though a modded MT-2 into a good amp will destroy.

Duely noted, I guess I'll keep the pedal, get a new amp with a good distortion, then continue my world domination plans from there.

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Re: Boost, what are they?
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2008, 05:52:55 AM »
Hey guys, the more gear I look at the more confused I get, so here I am again.

It seems like there are a few types of pedals that could boost your signal, I was specifically looking at the BYOC ones because I'm noticing good things being said about them.

The triboost, the 10 band graphic EQ, the TS808 OD clone, were the ones that seemed interesting (and GAS inducing) to me.

So... aside from the obvious main functions, how are the boosting pat of these pedals different?

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Re: Boost, what are they?
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2008, 01:39:13 PM »
I got a broken boss hm-2 from ebay, fixed it up to test as a boost.... its noisy and unfocused... sort of makes my guitar sound in pain.. could be useable to that effect but no more..

my advice is avoid the hm-2... i like the tubescreamers. i do want to try the MXR ZW bost.. i cant stand zakk tho, if i got one and liked it, i would have to repaint the caseing... and claim its something else altogether... maybe paint it in the colours of a boss ds-1 and write that on.
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Re: Boost, what are they?
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2008, 03:44:19 PM »
I got a broken boss hm-2 from ebay, fixed it up to test as a boost.... its noisy and unfocused... sort of makes my guitar sound in pain.. could be useable to that effect but no more..

my advice is avoid the hm-2... i like the tubescreamers. i do want to try the MXR ZW bost.. i cant stand zakk tho, if i got one and liked it, i would have to repaint the caseing... and claim its something else altogether... maybe paint it in the colours of a boss ds-1 and write that on.

use a ruler and scratch stripes out of it, and write EVH on it. :)

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Re: Boost, what are they?
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2008, 06:12:01 PM »
i do want to try the MXR ZW bost.. i cant stand zakk tho, if i got one and liked it, i would have to repaint the caseing... and claim its something else altogether... maybe paint it in the colours of a boss ds-1 and write that on.

I've got one, wouldn't recommend it either. Very spikey sounding.
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