6505

[the_bleeding]

Parts tolerance, quite possibly, but the tubes were exactly the same (as in, the very same set, swapped between each).
There is definitely a noticeable difference between the original 5150s and the 6505s

this is quite interesting. Id love to see the guts of both to compare. I wonder what the difference is?

[Nolly]

It's difficult to be completely certain though, without running a few mroe controls - you'd need at least one more of each type of amp to make sure the difference noted (which I don't doubt you heard!) is actually significant compared to the stock differences between 5150s (from each other) and 6505s (again, from each other). You can't necessarily extrapolate to say that all 5150s are different to 6505s!

Sorry, it's the scientist in me, I couldn't help it!

(either way I bet they both sounded great, right? :))
Roo

You're right, obviously (I did study theoretical physics at uni, so I'm plenty used to inner scientists), but in all other respects the comparison was as untainted as possible, even down to using reamped signals so that the performance was literally identical.
They did sound good, but my VH4 sounds better. :)

[Philosoful]

 :lol: :lol: + 1 but replace VH4 with Herbert :D

[noodleplugerine]

:lol: :lol: + 1 but replace VH4 with Herbert :D

Really? I'd rather a VH4. The herbert was insane when I played through it, gain was set at 12 O clock and was still the gainest amp I've ever used - Insane.

[Nolly]

:lol: :lol: + 1 but replace VH4 with Herbert :D

Really? I'd rather a VH4. The herbert was insane when I played through it, gain was set at 12 O clock and was still the gainest amp I've ever used - Insane.

I'm definitely a VH4 kinda guy, I just don't really enjoy the Herbert voicing. It is ridiculous for really low tunings though, the 180w of low end has to be heard to be believed.

[Philosoful]

Well it was agggges ago when I compared the two with Doug and Jamie, maybe I'd prefer the VH4 now, I can't remember what I thought other than prefering the Herbert hence buying it obviously. Would be awesome to compare the 2 again, but as with most Diezel owners I'm so happy with it anyway :)

[Roobubba]

Damn it you guys, STOP IT!  I'm happy with my 5150-II, I'm happy with my 5150-II, I'm happy with my 5150-II...

Aaahh those Diezels are EL34-driven... I can arbitrarily hold onto that as a reason not to get GAS. Besides, computer upgrade next!!

Roo

[Nolly]

Damn it you guys, STOP IT!  I'm happy with my 5150-II, I'm happy with my 5150-II, I'm happy with my 5150-II...

Aaahh those Diezels are EL34-driven... I can arbitrarily hold onto that as a reason not to get GAS. Besides, computer upgrade next!!

Roo

The VH4 can take pretty much any power tube you can imagine, 6L6s, KT66/77/88s, 6550s etc..

[AdamB]

Haha!

Think i'll end up with one soon too! It's you're bad influence Nolly :D

[Roobubba]

Damn it you guys, STOP IT!  I'm happy with my 5150-II, I'm happy with my 5150-II, I'm happy with my 5150-II...

Aaahh those Diezels are EL34-driven... I can arbitrarily hold onto that as a reason not to get GAS. Besides, computer upgrade next!!

Roo

The VH4 can take pretty much any power tube you can imagine, 6L6s, KT66/77/88s, 6550s etc..

What about the Herbert? I tune very low, and tbh the thought of 180W of power through those bottom notes makes me all slippery :)

[Nolly]

Haha!

Think i'll end up with one soon too! It's you're bad influence Nolly :D

Hahaha, well, it's pretty much tradition, if you get what I mean ;)

[Nolly]

What about the Herbert? I tune very low, and tbh the thought of 180W of power through those bottom notes makes me all slippery :)

Just checked out the Herbert manual.. Seems you can use the all the different types of tubes as with the VH4, but you can also mix and match different types. That's three different pairs of tubes you can use in one amp, and bias seperately  :o

[AdamB]

Jesus, i'm getting GAS!!! When i bloody love the amp i have already.

One can never have too many? Somebody help me out!

[Philosoful]

What about the Herbert? I tune very low, and tbh the thought of 180W of power through those bottom notes makes me all slippery :)

Just checked out the Herbert manual.. Seems you can use the all the different types of tubes as with the VH4, but you can also mix and match different types. That's three different pairs of tubes you can use in one amp, and bias seperately  :o

AND thanks to external bias pots even I was able to re-tube my Herbert :D

[Roobubba]

What about the Herbert? I tune very low, and tbh the thought of 180W of power through those bottom notes makes me all slippery :)

Just checked out the Herbert manual.. Seems you can use the all the different types of tubes as with the VH4, but you can also mix and match different types. That's three different pairs of tubes you can use in one amp, and bias seperately  :o

AND thanks to external bias pots even I was able to re-tube my Herbert :D

bar-stewardS!!!!