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elijen

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absolute beginner
« on: December 09, 2008, 04:54:16 PM »
Hi guys!

I stumbled upon this forum while I was looking for the answer to the question: “what the hell are BKPs that Chris Broderick uses?” Anyway, I’ve seen that people posting here usually know their stuff and answer seriously, so I thought to ask a totally nOOb question.  :)

- What type of guitar would you recommend to an absolute beginner?

I’m 29 and have never tried to learn to play before. I’ve got a lot of friends that play, some are even professional musicians. But when I ask them what should I take as my first six string, I get different answers. Some say take classical as it is easiest to press the strings, some say acoustic because of the narrower neck… I ignore suggestions for the electric ‘cause I simply do not want to have the hassle with the equipment, until I’ll know for certain that I possess at least some talent.

So, how did you start? What should I get? Any other advice?

...please be so kind and help me out...  :D

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Re: absolute beginner
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2008, 05:03:32 PM »
Welcome!

You're in a very lucky position - there's more stuff out there at more reasonable prices than ever before.

What kinda stuff are you in to?

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Re: absolute beginner
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2008, 05:08:37 PM »
Personally, I think a nylon-stringed acoustic is a great place to start (and continue!). I wouldn't say the neck is thin, and the action (string height above fretboard) is high, which really helps with technique if you later on move to an electric guitar.

The other thing I'd say is don't be afraid of getting a cheap electric guitar to learn on, either. You don't need to spend a fortune on gear (until you decide that you want to, then it's no turning back!).

And welcome to the forum!

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Re: absolute beginner
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2008, 05:16:32 PM »
Welcome!

You're in a very lucky position - there's more stuff out there at more reasonable prices than ever before.

What kinda stuff are you in to?

Mark.

Hi there!

Well anything from rock to metal interests me. Hard to say exactly... I've been through some bands as a vocalist. I guess I want to expand, be a capable second guitar.

My favourite bands at the moment: Alter Bridge, Stone Sour, Megadeth...

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Re: absolute beginner
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2008, 05:27:15 PM »
If you're into those bands, you want an electric. Equipment wise you only need a small practice amp at first.
Get something with double cutaways with humbuckers (or at least a bridge humbucker) and for a beginner I'd say a fixed bridge (restringing a floating trem could be enough to make you jack it all in).
 On a general note I'd say get what you can afford. If you get something reasonable (in the £200+ range) and look after it, if things don't work out you can sell it and probably lose less than if you bought some sub £100 noname piece of plywood.
 As someone said, the entry level instruments are way better now than when I started playing, and you can get a very playable guitar for £200, and some decent amps for £60-80.
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Re: absolute beginner
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2008, 05:31:21 PM »
I'd look in some second hand shops like cash converters. They always have guitars in. Look for a low action.
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Re: absolute beginner
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2008, 05:35:38 PM »
Thanx for the reply Roo and Sifu Ben + JM

Well the thing is... I could get my hands on a friend's nylon string that has been collecting dust for years. It's not a bad guitar either, an entry level Alhambra. and the beautiful part - it's free.

The other issue... equipment here in Croatia doesn't come cheap (due to taxes and a BS excuse for a financial policy), so if I opt for the electric, I'd have to choose wisely so I' ll be able to sell it afterward with minimum loss.
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Re: absolute beginner
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2008, 05:49:38 PM »
i agree with sifu... in my opinion it's way better to buy a cheap electric and a cheap amp than to try to make every step from nylon to steel to electric... i've never considered nylon stringed guitars as steps in the same path of the electric, and steel stringed acoustics are half-electrics just if you play them in the wrong way... acoustic guitar is a completely different league in my opinion. you can later discover the pleasure of acoustic instruments, but if you can't really play the will be extremely frustrating to start with.
personally i began to play "seriously" (ehm...) when i bought my first electric, because it was what i was long dreaming to play, and everything else was just surrogate.
if you want to practice in your room, have fun, playing on your favourite records and learn how to use the tonal possibilities of an e-guitar you should buy some modeling equipment (personally i hate it but v-amp is very, VERY affordable, and you could even find it used) and care nothing about pedals, amps and various technical tricks but still begin to learn something about the way the sound is modulated, distorted and amplified in a chain of gear... this will be very useful if you want to continue playing.
a cheap amp can let you rehearse with your friends, but this will come later anyway... and cheap (very cheap) amps can be quite frustrating because you will hardly get a sound you'll like, and you will end thinking that's all because of your awful playing!
so... i'd go for a cheap ibanez (best value) and a cheap amp modeller. now you can...
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Re: absolute beginner
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2008, 05:51:13 PM »
eheheh... i could tell you to cross the border and buy some gear in italy, but here you won't find much better deals!  :)
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Re: absolute beginner
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2008, 05:54:24 PM »
Take the free classical to learn on, see if you like playing - but they are a bitch to strum on due to the floppy strings.  After a while you'll know if you want an electric.  Yam Pacificas are great starter guitars and Roland microcubes serve as good first amps.

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Re: absolute beginner
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2008, 06:14:27 PM »
The other issue... equipment here in Croatia doesn't come cheap (due to taxes and a BS excuse for a financial policy), so if I opt for the electric, I'd have to choose wisely so I' ll be able to sell it afterward with minimum loss.
Croatia's part of the EU, and therefore surely bound by the Customs Union agrements. You should be able to order from someone like Thomann, get free delivery and pay no additional taxes.
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Re: absolute beginner
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2008, 06:17:00 PM »
Yeah, I think I'll take that nylon-string and start saving for a nice beginner electric. If I make any progress with the classical, I'll move to something more suitable for my taste :)

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Re: absolute beginner
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2008, 06:17:52 PM »
The other issue... equipment here in Croatia doesn't come cheap (due to taxes and a BS excuse for a financial policy), so if I opt for the electric, I'd have to choose wisely so I' ll be able to sell it afterward with minimum loss.
Croatia's part of the EU, and therefore surely bound by the Customs Union agrements. You should be able to order from someone like Thomann, get free delivery and pay no additional taxes.

God bless you :D

But no, we are not part of the EU, not yet...  :(

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Re: absolute beginner
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2008, 06:21:33 PM »
Roland Cube?
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