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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2008, 03:08:21 PM »
It should be ok I think.... :? I believe a lot of acoustic guitars are done like that? I just get a thicker piece of wood so that I can naturally get the angle for the headstock out of the wood...

Yes, it's... We are talking about when you glue it... the glue is slippery and you've to take care to make sure it's hold tight while the glue is still wet... After it dries, it's just fine :D

yes, that and glue seeping everywhere - so you're trying to get the two bits stuck together and not getting the clamps and such covered in glue (well, at least that's the problem I always have!  :lol:)
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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2008, 03:10:39 PM »
To me, if the woods get stuck fine, to hell with the glue on clamps... three pints of glue on it :lol:

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2008, 03:11:07 PM »
i dont think jonathan does many scarfed headstocks, not sure though

i do them sometimes - havnt for a while though because i am mainly doing laminated necks at the moment

no special tricks for it though, sometimes pin, sometimes wedge shaped clamping cauls... i do have a jig that holds both pieces in place but i am not sure it works much better than the simple methods

personally i think a well done scarf join (i.e, done with a bit more care than the cheapo guitars with scarfed necks) is superior in strength to a neck cut from one piece... but laminating is also stronger and helps stability in the whole neck... and it looks prettier than the other two

PS.  Interesting headstock FE, looks like a cross between mine and Ken lawrences - hope you have worked out the string paths and tuner locations

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2008, 03:22:52 PM »
i dont think jonathan does many scarfed headstocks, not sure though

i do them sometimes - havnt for a while though because i am mainly doing laminated necks at the moment

no special tricks for it though, sometimes pin, sometimes wedge shaped clamping cauls... i do have a jig that holds both pieces in place but i am not sure it works much better than the simple methods

personally i think a well done scarf join (i.e, done with a bit more care than the cheapo guitars with scarfed necks) is superior in strength to a neck cut from one piece... but laminating is also stronger and helps stability in the whole neck... and it looks prettier than the other two

PS.  Interesting headstock FE, looks like a cross between mine and Ken lawrences - hope you have worked out the string paths and tuner locations

I had, but then the previous luthier that I asked to cut the woods lost the drawn for me :rock: And the morrow didn't cut it, took about two months and "can't do it now", only did the fingerboard slots and asked big money for it... :evil:
Now will be more like when the nut is done... unfortunatelly... :cry:

Yes, it's kind yours, KL, esp... It's very hard find a new design exclusevely and nice :?

It was supposed to be a neck-thru, but this Wenge I bought here in BR from the only guy who has it and it's 45mm thick... so wouldn't work... next time I'll buy from abroad, then the guys will have it at 6cm or more, but will be damn expensive :( But will be able to do neck-thru and laminates...
« Last Edit: December 20, 2008, 03:24:32 PM by FernandoEsteves »

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2008, 03:40:05 PM »
Yes, it's kind yours, KL, esp... It's very hard find a new design exclusevely and nice :?

dont forget the new guitar hero controller!! ;)

it is hard to come up with original shapes... i thought i had done it till i realised it was almost identical to a dan armstrong plexi guitar :?  i guess i unconsiously used it as inspiration but i am still willing to cite it as inspiration because i cannot deny being a fan of those guitars even though i hadnt seen one in years when i drew the headstock shape

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2008, 03:47:48 PM »
That's the original design I sent to my friend, he chosed letter A, it was a couple of days before you posted the finished Ventura, then I saw it looked very like yours and I talked with the guy and tryed to changed it, make it more "slim"...

I'm going to work on it changing it more as it is not that different... Let's see what happens
« Last Edit: December 20, 2008, 08:06:27 PM by FernandoEsteves »

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2008, 02:07:38 PM »
Yes, it's kind yours, KL, esp... It's very hard find a new design exclusevely and nice :?

dont forget the new guitar hero controller!! ;)

it is hard to come up with original shapes... i thought i had done it till i realised it was almost identical to a dan armstrong plexi guitar :?  i guess i unconsiously used it as inspiration but i am still willing to cite it as inspiration because i cannot deny being a fan of those guitars even though i hadnt seen one in years when i drew the headstock shape
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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2009, 01:59:26 PM »
looks sweet  :D
never really heard of Ziricote fingerboards before!? What are they like!?
They are somewhere between rosewood and ebony in sound (very subtle difference though), but they do have the attack of an ebony fingerboard.  I have one on my Wez SG.  They also look very nice and the grain is much more obvious than ebony but they can also have some great burl patterns in them.  If you check on the warmoth web site they use it and give you a description too.
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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2009, 08:05:04 PM »
After the advice of Wez about the tuners position and how the string would be after the nut (the mate is a little freak about 100% straight strings) I had to change a little the draw of the headstock...



With luck next week I'll be able to apoint the they it will hit the saw :twisted: