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Re: Has anything actully designed specifically for metal every been any good?
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2009, 06:55:07 PM »
What are awesome tones? and what are bad tones?

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Re: Has anything actully designed specifically for metal every been any good?
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2009, 07:18:30 PM »
Rectifiers are win for metal.

All the old thrash bands who are coming out with new releases use them and it sounds brutal.
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Re: Has anything actully designed specifically for metal every been any good?
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2009, 07:51:51 PM »
depends on the piece of kit, if it's stuff made for the kids where looks etc. are more important or if it's actually pro quality stuff...

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Re: Has anything actully designed specifically for metal every been any good?
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2009, 10:03:24 PM »
hahaha rectifiers were designed to play grunge just as grunge was dying out. Mesa got lucky when some heavier players discovered they could be used for metal. And yes, they are great for metal. Look at bands like Skinless, cannibal corpse, satyricon... they all use rectifiers, and are definately NOT rock. Not all metal is tight technical stuff.


To be fair, Satyricon are pretty much a rock band now, albiet with more aggressive vocals - ever since they decided to be a black metal version of Entombed's modern tripe - plus still have pretty horrid guitar sounds. Then Skinless and Cannibal Corpse aren't exactly awash with awesome tones  :lol:

I really like the tones on Cannibal Corpse's KILL album.  6FU have used Rectos too and their tones are pretty meaty.

Do Satyricon use Rectos now? I saw them on the Now Diabolical tour and it was 5150s - the records sounds like 5150s too.

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Re: Has anything actully designed specifically for metal every been any good?
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2009, 06:09:10 AM »
this thread raises an interesting point. usually stuff marketed directly at the metal market tends to be a bit gimmicky and low-end... eg Boss Metalzone etc etc. Its true you don't need that stuff to get a metal tone.. I mean, you can easily be metal with a plexi style marshall or whatever.

I think you raise a good point there. I have the same impression, metal stuff is often aimed at the beginner/younger end of the market and there is a lot of plastic bling involved.

I sometimes think that when I read Total Guitar magazine compared to Guitarist, that the price/quality of gear differs a lot in both.

On the other hand, there is also high end stuff aiming at metal, like Caparison guitars, Diamond/Diezel etc amps and so on.
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Re: Has anything actully designed specifically for metal every been any good?
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2009, 06:49:22 AM »
 :? i wish rectos, diezels, engl and bogners were really this low-end...  :P
anyway it's a matter of tastes, darkthrone pull very brutal tones out of cr@ppy equipment... cr@ppy brutal tones, i'd say, but heavy as hell...  :)
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Re: Has anything actully designed specifically for metal every been any good?
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2009, 06:51:48 AM »
Short answer, No.

Long answer, Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
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Re: Has anything actully designed specifically for metal every been any good?
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2009, 09:52:20 AM »
Rectifiers are win for metal.

All the old thrash bands who are coming out with new releases use them and it sounds brutal.

Well, not all...

Testament - JVMs.
Metallica - Diezels.

And on the actual subject of the thread...

Cheap metal stuff is shite.
Expensive metal stuff is good.

Isn't that the same with everything on the market?
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Re: Has anything actully designed specifically for metal every been any good?
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2009, 10:16:22 AM »
notice though. you dont REALLY get stuff aimed at indie or blues guitar players specifically.

most FX companies make some sort of distortion effect called "t3h heavi br00talz kvlt overdrive!!!!11!!!' but you dont really get the 'indie topshop music pap in a box' pedal or the '1950's old black blues man' pedal...
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Re: Has anything actully designed specifically for metal every been any good?
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2009, 10:26:24 AM »
notice though. you dont REALLY get stuff aimed at indie or blues guitar players specifically.

most FX companies make some sort of distortion effect called "t3h heavi br00talz kvlt overdrive!!!!11!!!' but you dont really get the 'indie topshop music pap in a box' pedal or the '1950's old black blues man' pedal...

i think theres quite a few blues oriented products - for example boss blues driver. probably less than metal though

i don't know too much about indie musicians. but don't they usually have quite a traditional tone, which they might layer with way out effects? also we've all heard of the 'indie' guitar line.
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Re: Has anything actully designed specifically for metal every been any good?
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2009, 10:29:30 AM »
on the actual subject of the thread...

Cheap metal stuff is shitee.
Expensive metal stuff is good.

Isn't that the same with everything on the market?
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Re: Has anything actully designed specifically for metal every been any good?
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2009, 10:41:41 AM »
Rectifiers are win for metal.

All the old thrash bands who are coming out with new releases use them and it sounds brutal.

Well, not all...

Testament - JVMs.
Metallica - Diezels.

And on the actual subject of the thread...

Cheap metal stuff is shitee.
Expensive metal stuff is good.

Isn't that the same with everything on the market?

I was referring more to Exodus and Death Angel etc.

Destruction and Kreator use 5150's (i think)

I don't really count Metallica.
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Re: Has anything actully designed specifically for metal every been any good?
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2009, 10:42:15 AM »
notice though. you dont REALLY get stuff aimed at indie or blues guitar players specifically.

most FX companies make some sort of distortion effect called "t3h heavi br00talz kvlt overdrive!!!!11!!!' but you dont really get the 'indie topshop music pap in a box' pedal or the '1950's old black blues man' pedal...

i think theres quite a few blues oriented products - for example boss blues driver. probably less than metal though

i don't know too much about indie musicians. but don't they usually have quite a traditional tone, which they might layer with way out effects? also we've all heard of the 'indie' guitar line.

Indie guitars refers to being an independant company tho doesn't it? Rather than 'indie'.
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Re: Has anything actully designed specifically for metal every been any good?
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2009, 10:54:48 AM »
I can only think of some decent pickups and guitars aimed at metal players. I can't think of any FX or amps.

When I first heard a Dual Recto live, I was impressed but everyone sounds the same through one. Metallica's best tones came from a MarkIV, 50/50 and Marshalls. Their recto live tones sucked and their new Diezel sound sucks even more.

The best metal tones I ever produced came from a Fender amp and cab with a good Marshall style tube pedal.
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